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Re: Re[2]: Routers


From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:20:11 +1300

Pierre Vandevenne wrote:

VKve> Further hatred is engendered by the fact that this creeping horror escaped from
VKve> Microsoft *after* one of the great "Security is important" diatribes from the
VKve> Gates/Ballmer duo.

I find this to be a great idea, somewhere between DHCP and e-mail in
terms of usefulness and significance. True, it has problems, but so
had/has e-mail. If anyone here can propose some network thingy that is
at the same time practically useful for most everyone and totally
safe, boldly step forward!

The main difference between Email and UPnP is that Email never was 
supposed to be secure, and had obvious (but tolerable) security 
implications to its (originally intended) users.

UPnP is deliberately designed to _unbeknownst to the (likely) affected 
user_ lower the security of _other_ security measures that were 
presumably deliberately put in place to _increase_ said user's 
security.  Sure it's "convenient", but security-wise it is an entirely 
different kettle of fish from Email as it deliberately lowers the 
security of _other_ supposed security measures...


Regards,

Nick FitzGerald

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