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Re[2]: A bioterror attack in World of Warcraft.
From: Pierre Vandevenne <pierre () datarescue com>
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 12:03:20 +0200
Good Afternoon, In the real world, the solution is proven and well defined. Vaccine a sufficient number of susceptible hosts and you don't have an epidemy. After a certain treshold, which is not 100%, the disease won't spread and will essentially disappear for a while (which can be a long while). The causal agent might jump to another "backup" host, might go dormant, or even be replaced by a less harmful variant. This is why, while there is some lively discussions in scientific circles about a possible bird-flu pandemic, there is no discussion as far as the best method to handle it is concerned: have vaccines ready and lots of them. Some companies are even betting on the flu and on supply problems/issues - see the Chiron/Novartis saga. Wednesday, September 21, 2005, 8:57:04 AM, you wrote: GE> Roland Dobbins wrote:
There's a lot of food for thought, here: http://www.collisiondetection.net/mt/archives/2005/09/ _dig_this_an_eb.html
GE> A must read indeed. GE> Moving beyond this story being cool, I'd like to actually discuss what GE> we can learn from it. GE> I don't think establishing such games to learn how diseases spread can GE> really teach us much beyond being a sweet treat to someone working on GE> their Ph. D. There are a lot of metrics that can be collected here and GE> therefore this can be interesting for many different research purposes, GE> from the spread of diseases to comparisons between the biological and GE> computers world. GE> I believe that looking at the ways the online game tries and will try to GE> *cope* with the problem is by far more interesting. GE> So far we have seen "local authorities" try to quarantine users, as well GE> as some other such measures. But what can really be done? GE> I suppose it all depends on the game and the capabilities of the GE> software manufacturer and server managers to modify it "unfairly", which GE> is basically what most game manufacturers try and prevent. GE> If they could wipe the disease out they would have by now (I hope), so, GE> what could they potentially do? GE> They could use the band-aid approach and send the game a new item, much GE> like they send a new monster. Widely distributing healing potions and/or GE> something that will heal this particular epidemic. GE> They could do (potentially), a global "blessing" of sort to heal everybody. GE> Whatever it is they do try their solutions will fall under one of the GE> following four categories: GE> 1. Band-aids, trying to help as many as they can where they can. They GE> could potentially heal most people, or have them take the medicine GE> continuously over-time, as they will keep getting re-infected. GE> 2. Do something global - "heal everybody". Problem is there are players GE> who won't be there when everybody is healed and will just re-introduce GE> the disease when they come back. I suppose constant global healing is GE> not a Bad Idea, but it is once again a limited solution. GE> 3. Game manipulation: just edit this out from the game and/or ALL GE> characters, whether at the DB level or "on-login". GE> 4. Scorched Earth. Kill everything. Maybe try to restore data from GE> before the "attack" and/or from after with the disease data removed. GE> It is very interesting to see a feature that does what is intended and GE> yet "runs" out of control. Following this story will be extremely GE> interesting. -- Best regards, Pierre mailto:pierre () datarescue com _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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