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Re: Info about attack trees
From: Gage Bystrom <themadichib0d () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 10:27:46 -0700
Never read any of his pieces on attack trees. That being said, and having read over it, I believe it to be infeasible to make an attack tree against any modern system, even with only the scope of web applications. There are simply a vast majority of possible start points, and what leafs that may exist all depend on what information you gather. As in, while building an attack tree you might have to add leaves as you attack the application. Such a final attack tree would be amazingly complex. If OP wants to go for that then that's his choice, but to be frank I believe there are more productive uses of someone's time. On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Peter Dawson <slash.pd () gmail com> wrote:
==> "there are no such thing as an attack tree." Eh ?? Seems that Schneier was blowing smoke up in the air with his thoughts on attack trees !! Anyhoot, here's another good old linky Military Operations Research V10, N2, 2005, http://www.innovativedecisions.com/documents/Buckshaw-Parnelletal.pdf /pd On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Daniel Hadfield <dan () pingsweep co uk> wrote:You can create an XSS with a SQLi If you can output on the page, you can inject HTML/JS with that variable On 25/05/2012 09:58, Federico De Meo wrote:Hello everybody, I'm new to this maling-list and to security in general. I'm here to learn and I'm starting with a question :) I'm looking for some informations about attack trees usage in web application analysis. For my master thesis I decided to study the usage of this formalism in order to reppresent attacks to a web applications. I need a lot of use cases from which to start learning common attacks which can help building a proper tree.From where can I start?I've already read the OWASP top 10 vulnerabilities an I'm familiar with XSS, SQLi, ecc. however I've no clue on how to combine them together in order to perform the steps needed to attack a system. I'm looking for some examples and maybe to some famous attacks from which I can understand which steps are performed and how commons vulnerabilities can being combined together. Any help is really appreciated. ------------------- Federico. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: Info about attack trees Urlan (May 25)
- Re: Info about attack trees Thor (Hammer of God) (May 25)
- Re: Info about attack trees Gage Bystrom (May 26)
- Re: Info about attack trees coderman (May 26)
- Re: Info about attack trees Georgi Guninski (May 28)
- Re: Info about attack trees coderman (May 28)
- Re: Info about attack trees coderman (May 26)
- Re: Info about attack trees Urlan (May 25)
- Re: Info about attack trees Daniel Hadfield (May 27)
- Re: Info about attack trees Peter Dawson (May 28)
- Re: Info about attack trees Gage Bystrom (May 28)
- Re: Info about attack trees Peter Dawson (May 28)
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