Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing

["Mikhail A. Utin" <mutin () commonwealthcare org>]

Dear Paul,
You completely missed my point. I was talking about the foundation of this list, which is free service, and the 
foundation of a lot of current IT technologies, which is freeware. Giving knowledge for free (including software bugs) 
is the foundation of this civilization. Having profit is a necessity but not all what drives us. Could you personally 
show any your contribution to the society? Which was not paid for?
My contribution you can find searching/google for my name and "article", and DeepSec 2011 and OWASP AppSec DC 2012 
presentations as well. Nobody paid me for. Plus, you can check our portal www.201cmr1700ma.com, which provides 
knowledge and security documents for free. Then, considering you association with math science, you can possibly 
estimate the time I've spent for free.
So, my voice pro free knowledge distribution is completely legitimate.

Sincerely

Mikhail utin, CISSP, PhD

-----Original Message-----
From: paul.szabo () sydney edu au [mailto:paul.szabo () sydney edu au] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:41 PM
To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk; Mikhail A. Utin
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing

Dear Mikhail,

> > From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor () hammerofgod com>
> > To: Georgi Guninski <guninski () guninski com>, Stefan Kanthak
> >      <stefan.kanthak () nexgo de>
> > Cc: "full-disclosure () lists grok org uk"
> >      <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk>
> >
> > I'm not contradicting myself at all - in fact, *you* are the exact 
> > type of person I'm talking about.  You couldn't give a rat's ass 
> > about the industry or anyone but yourself.  Nothing you have ever 
> > done has been "valuable" to anyone other than you; it has been 
> > completely self-serving egotistical bullshit.
>
> I completely agree with Thor. ...

You cannot possibly agree with someone who addresses two people in the singular. You should not agree with someone who 
ascribes behaviourial patterns to others, based on his own character traits.

Are you familiar with Georgi's work? Please look at his website before proffering opinions.

Cheers, Paul

Paul Szabo   psz () maths usyd edu au   http://www.maths.usyd.edu.au/u/psz/
School of Mathematics and Statistics   University of Sydney    Australia
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