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Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response
From: Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org>
Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:03:09 -0600
On 1/7/12 3:50 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
Perhaps these companies should try to hire the kids owning them instead of crying to the feds.On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 16:25:35 EST, Shyaam Sundhar said:Although, once they have gained popularity and to a stage where a garage office becomes a shop floor and a @home biz becomes a rent-a-million$-building office, it is time to shift priorities.If finding people who are competent enough to secure a payroll system for a company of 10 people is difficult, what makes you think that it's easy to find people who can secure the systems for a company of 1,000? As Stratfor has demonstrated, the talent pool of *really* competent security people is shallow enough that there's not even enough to secure the security companies. And it's not just Stratfor - when was the last time this list went a week without mocking a security company for its lack of clue? It's an industry-wide problem - there's a *severe* shortage of experts. And even though schools like DeVry and ITT are churning out lots of people with entry level certifications, I'm not at all sure that helps the situation - we end up with a lot of people who are entry level, and don't realize how much they don't know. That makes them almost more dangerous than not having anybody at all. Sort of like if you walk alone through a scary part of town, you actually stand a good chance because you *know* you're alone and will act accordingly - but if you have a bodyguard with you, you're likely to act differently, and end up totally screwed when you find out said bodyguard has a belt in martial arts, but zero experience in street fighting... _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Shyaam Sundhar (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Shyaam Sundhar (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Ferenc Kovacs (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Shyaam Sundhar (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Ferenc Kovacs (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Shyaam Sundhar (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Jeffrey Walton (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Ferenc Kovacs (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Ferenc Kovacs (Jan 07)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Jeffrey Walton (Jan 07)