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Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response
From: metasansana () gmail com
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 21:08:45 +0000
Thus the sad state of security continues. While the experts and those with good intent continue to debate the line between legal and illegal, responsible and reckless, the malicious hackers continue to profit from the ignorance of average users and the sites they trust. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device available from bmobile. -----Original Message----- From: Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org> Sender: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:03:36 To: <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Rate Stratfor's Incident Response On 1/13/12 1:24 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
--On January 13, 2012 12:03:22 PM -0500 Benjamin Kreuter <ben.kreuter () gmail com> wrote:On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:37:31 -0600 Paul Schmehl<pschmehl_lists () tx rr com> wrote:--On January 12, 2012 3:16:19 PM -0500 Benjamin Kreuter <ben.kreuter () gmail com> wrote:The law is not going to stop the really bad people from attacking your system, nor is it going to stop them from profiting from whatever access they gain; sending law enforcement after someone who reports problems to you accomplishes little and only discourages people who might try to help you.Assuming everyone's motives are as pure as the driven snow is a bit naive, don't you think?Are there lingering doubts about the motives of someone who is reporting a vulnerability to you? They could have just profited from their discovery and never bothered to tell you. In any case, what have you accomplished by sending the cops after *someone who is helping you*?Unless you're a complete fool, yes. You say you're helping me, but you broke in to my server. How do I know you didn't help yourself to a permanent back door? Again, it's naive to think that most people are motivated purely by a desire to help others, especially when they are actively intruding into other people's assets. YOU might say thank you, but I'll be taking the server offline, grabbing forensic images and rebuilding it long before I get around to saying thank you.
Well just remember they could have *not* told you and helped themselves to a backdoor. If they wanted to door you they probably wouldn't have told you. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response, (continued)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 14)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Sanguinarious Rose (Jan 14)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Paul Schmehl (Jan 14)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Benjamin Kreuter (Jan 14)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Sanguinarious Rose (Jan 14)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Ferenc Kovacs (Jan 14)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Sanguinarious Rose (Jan 14)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Benjamin Kreuter (Jan 14)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Paul Schmehl (Jan 13)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Benjamin Kreuter (Jan 13)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response metasansana (Jan 17)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response doc mombasa (Jan 12)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 12)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response doc mombasa (Jan 12)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 12)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response doc mombasa (Jan 12)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 12)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response doc mombasa (Jan 12)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 12)
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