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Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response
From: Michael Schmidt <mschmidt () drugstore com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:16:10 +0000
No one lives in a server, but the server certainly occupies space somewhere. Even a VM runs in a physical space somewhere. If someone attacks my server in my home, I think of that as physically being in my home. If someone were to hack into my daughters webcam, and enable it to view her, I would certainly consider that the EXACT same as being in my house, on my property. And said person would incur the same fathers wrath as any other boy who attempted such a thing. Father has baseball bats (the 3 B's of being a father) and this father has other more powerful weapons to defend his family with. The people out there willing to do harm remotely should not forget that there are officers of the law who will come knocking with a very real physical presence, even though the attacker was in a "virtual" world. That's just one fathers take on things. -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of J. von Balzac Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:01 AM To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Rate Stratfor's Incident Response
Really, calling it "breaking in" is a stretch. You connected a computer to a publicly accessible computer network, where anyone can send anything to your computer. If hacking such a system is "breaking in," you might as well claim that shouting across your neighbor's yard is "breaking in."Bzzzt. Bad analogy. A better one would be noticing your neighbor's garage door is open, walking across the street, entering the garage and rummaging around in his belongings.
It's obvious that all analogies are bad -- the Internet is a reality onto itself and cannot, but more importantly *should* not be compared to the physical "3d" reality. Internet has no law of gravity for instance, and certainly no garages. Please, just focus on what is relevant. Perhaps even take one step further back to determine what actually is relevant first. Stop comparing it to arbitrary things. No one lives in a server, so it's certainly not a house. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response BMF (Jan 12)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Thor (Hammer of God) (Jan 12)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 13)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Benjamin Kreuter (Jan 13)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Ferenc Kovacs (Jan 13)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Giles Coochey (Jan 13)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Benjamin Kreuter (Jan 13)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Paul Schmehl (Jan 13)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response J. von Balzac (Jan 13)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Michael Schmidt (Jan 13)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Benjamin Kreuter (Jan 13)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Paul Schmehl (Jan 13)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 13)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Gage Bystrom (Jan 13)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 14)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Sanguinarious Rose (Jan 14)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Paul Schmehl (Jan 14)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Benjamin Kreuter (Jan 14)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Sanguinarious Rose (Jan 14)
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