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Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response
From: Ian Hayes <cthulhucalling () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:39:07 -0800
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org> wrote:
On 1/10/12 10:18 PM, Byron Sonne wrote:Don't piss off a talented adolescent with computer skills.Amen! I love me some stylin' pwnage :) Whether they were skiddies or actual hackers, it's still amusing (and frightening to some) that companies who really should know better, in fact, don't.And again, if companies hired these people, most of whom come from disadvantaged backgrounds and are self taught they wouldn't have as much a reason to be angry anymore. Most of them feel like they don't have any real opportunities for a career and they are often right.
[citation needed]
Microsoft hired some kid who hacked their network, it is a safe bet he isn't going to be causing any trouble anymore.
Are you proposing that we reward all such behavior with jobs? I've always wanted to be a firefighter. Forget resumes, job applications and interviews, I'm going to set people's houses on fire. By your logic, an arsonist is not only the best person to combat other arsonists, but due to his obviously unique insight into the nature of fire, simply must know how best to fight a fire as opposed to someone who went to school for years to learn the trade.
Talking about the trust issue, who would you trust more the person who has all the certs and experience that told you your network was safe or the 14 year old who proved him wrong?
This is asinine. WHY would I want to hire someone for a position of trust that just committed a crime, or at the very least acted in an unethical manner? More than anything, that person has proven that while he *might* have the technical chops, he certainly lacks the ethics and decision making skills to operate in the grown-up world. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Jeffrey Walton (Jan 10)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Byron Sonne (Jan 10)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 10)
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- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 10)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Kyle Creyts (Jan 11)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 10)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response James Smith (Jan 10)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 10)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 10)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 11)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Ian Hayes (Jan 11)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 11)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Ferenc Kovacs (Jan 11)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 11)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Dan Ballance (Jan 12)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Kyle Creyts (Jan 12)
- Re: Fwd: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response coderman (Jan 16)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Benjamin Kreuter (Jan 12)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 12)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Laurelai (Jan 12)
- Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response Ian Hayes (Jan 12)