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Re: Is this for real.. http://n3td3v.org.uk/
From: GloW - XD <doomxd () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:19:31 +1100
Man thankyou so much , thats the coolest praise anyone has EVER given me sofar regarding this, alot of people dig the experiment to, they saw it comin even... but, hey, your spoton, there is way more crime to be traced than, some wares on a site, wich, is an experiment and, if ppl even wish to see the dates, when i linked it up, it would show... but, i dont think they can, might only see files on server time, wich is along time.. but, was never public,was actually my own backups, wich i have legit keys for, and , should be on MSDN network, because was invited however, have not confirmed that yet. i would never try to 'ripoff' m$ , it was completely a social test, and many people who know me, would know i am not an idiot and always, makesure to read the rulebook before i attempt anything. i assume, there is way more credit-fraud and rape etc going on, than wares...or, police having to waste time, on wares... i think police themseves detedst those things, and hence why the clouds still linger over some websites wich should be 'down' yet, are not. That, is simply isp not complying with a takedown order wich is, completely up to them. Why would they want to loose good customers/people who bring them even traffic and revenue thru websites. I dont promote ads on my one, but i have always maintained a very steady and friendly,helpful with security, to my hosters wich they really appreciated. So, sometimes being in IT pays off... I guess... but what a struggle to get anywhere, even for the harder stuff, and people like n3td34v completely dont see that, the whole issue of freedom of speech and, security especially,ie: when i submit a PoC, anything nowdays, could happen.. these are the clouds i really wish to lift, in order though, I first must set some people on this list into the same state of mind, wich is prooving to be alittle harder than i expected. n3td3v thinks i am personally attacking his whole persona, wich, i should, and could, maybe pentest him and then, see if that is illegal.Ifso then, i would assume my tool of choice3, nmap, would also be in danger ? hehe... see how this can get offtopic, but really it is the same topic of security/vpn and now, i am bringing it to an isp and Noc level... and hopefully, some others will see the things said, and indeed, they know there is a lot more hard crime that could be done by police, wich would benmefit ALL communitys, and people IRL, asin kids, in some cases. So, it is important we have some clouds, and, maybe try and dissect thru some of the issues wich are in the actual, headlines, and see why and what is stopping these socalled 'dead' websites, from staying alive. there is reasons... afterall... So, it is a great topic, but id really appreciater some AV ceo's/admins, and anyone who is a certified IT sec personnel,even M$, to please, show yourself, and show us some of the rules wich ARE abided by, and why... and, what makes them important , even some smaller crimes, this is the stuff i want, and it is different with EVERY company, simply because of where located,laws there vs laws in user-country, then, more laws just not existing, i assume... I also detest the use of the law, for low level crappy crimes when they could be rm -rf'ing REAL dangerous people who actually, are trying to harm others, or simply, out for extortion and no other reason. I can say now safely, i am from .au and, i feel happy we have the laws here for serious crimes, i detested the dd0s kiddy david cecil's 'defacing' and, trying to cryout for work... what a b*m... I simply lookin the paper, and ring. Anyhows, he is in a cell, and for good reason, and, ofc, things with him got more serious because he was defrauding people of money. This is when, things go down, when you durectly steal funds, ie, if i were to steal shares in M$ using a PC, id be considered a cyber-terrorist,and, the crime would also be classed as a cyber-attack of terror or some such name...because, it not only terrorises, but it also steals data and,not 'steals' but uses it. wich is not very nice to loose a credit rating, or have feds on your door, coz you trusted a website that got 'owned' and, your card used for like 90k ,used to signup to a million places, and whatever else.. now, this would have a huge bearing on the crime, because the impact is huge on the victim. I simply think, police online, are doing the right thing, and arresting those involved ij child porn,and other detstable activty,rather than worrying about the small guys, who are simply using the net, as a playground. I guess the state of mind , and sometimes intellect, must be there,before you can even comprehend what I am saying. I thank those who have assisted this, and yes, indeed i have watched the site and seen the traffic is not so huge, but, i see who is doing what and, ofc now, it is being attacked like mad ;p , (wich, these guys then turn around, and call me a crim, for hosting things, wich they are also downloading in process, but, do you have a legit key for the stuff.. and, the iso for sdk, is online, on a ms link, it is called free. So, i dont know but, people have to really think, where do they want theyre money spent, when they spend it, on police worrying about wares, or, police worrying about theyre childrens safety online,. Ask yourself this, then reply. Thankyou. (Apologies for any speeling errors,I need a good plugin to correct those but, it is simply pressures of work also, and trying to put a half-decent post online...) again, i will try and make this abit neater...but it is, time restarints. cheers! xd On 3 October 2011 11:48, Richard Golodner <rgolodner () infratection com>wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 11:00 +1100, GloW - XD wrote:It is sofar amusing this even took off as a topic tho,XD, anything that has n3td3v in it is going to draw attention as he pissed people off on many lists. The coolest thing is your social-state of mind experiment. I am not sure, nor want to know where you are located, but I am amazed at the decline of intellect here in America. You can probably verify this by your own logs, you just don't get to see the guy in the Harley tank-top tee shirt with a beer in one hand and his mouse in the other trying to play XSS with your web pages. Trust me, some of them look like that. From your posts I can tell you are a bright gentlemen and an asset to the community of FD. It is my pleasure to be able to write you and I wish you success in your career. I am an old man (48) and can see the difference between the cream and the crap. With a varied career in the intelligence industry I can assure you that you have nothing to worry about police/legal wise. There is much heavier shit going in the world besides what that douche bag accused you of and what M$ would do. You are safe and those other guys/gals (Lorelei?) can fuck off! Keep on doing what you do as it is definitely appreciated by me. I am sure Valdis digs it too, but I have not spoken to the man in a while. Be cool, Richard
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