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Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...
From: xD 0x41 <secn3t () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:43:42 +1100
Nice. Oh, i did not mean hackers and drugs, they are not really what I classify as a hardcore, criminalised addict who is now at the point where the drug runs them... most hard non-pc crimes, are this way. Although, i know of many many people who abuse benzodiazepedines, and thats where it can get only abit tricky to *speak* with them ;p , however, this does not classify to me, as a harder tyope, who would rip that computer outta your hand and take it to sale! Thats the crims i mean, and thats the reason why PC users have a much higher chance to not be any kind of 'repeat' addict... simply just they are not running around, daily, robbing things and people, (how would they use a pc...) and many actually, work at places. So, it is a rather good area to look at, because the chances of rehabbing a PC/IT user, is much much better than any harder criminal who has done say, 20yrs of theyre life (out of 25 yrs on earth), behind jail bars. Anyhow, i think alot of hackers do *abuse* but, not addicted, to drugs, wich makes me wonder why they do it, some i know, have to for medical reasons, and know this, and when under influence, usually jump offline or stay afk abit.. Some, just abuse at a low level with pills, but if you were to count IV users amongst hackers vs IV users amongst the public/crime scenes there, then you would have a very different sizing. Is good reading to look at a few cases, regarding drugged people committing crimes, and compare the statistics to the turn-about with jail, wich is probably 99% amongst the hardcore crims, rotation rate*. Anyhow, cheers! xd On 4 October 2011 01:10, Darren Martyn <d.martyn.fulldisclosure () gmail com>wrote:
Nothing "wrong" with it per se, I was known to enjoy large bottles of rum during extended coding sessions. Now I can attest to the massive fall-off in "epic skillz" associated with too much alcohol - my code starts OK, gets better, then becomes an epic mess of typoes. I stopped doing that a while back as I realized that it impaired my judgement too much. Computer crimes are far easier to commit when ones judgement is sufficiently impaired - a lot of people I used to associate with took some form of intoxicant and claimed it made them a "better hacker". (cannabis often being one of the drugs of choice, some claim it allowed them to "visualize" it all better...). I personally reckon that the real reason for this is that it makes it easier to ignore the fact you are doing something "wrong". TL;DR, intoxicants + misguided computer hackers = bad. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org> wrote:On 10/3/2011 4:56 AM, Darren Martyn wrote:True, I know some hackers who really apply the "Ballmers Peak" (http://xkcd.com/323/) principle... They simply need to dry up :)Yeah i know quite a few of those myself. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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