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Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach?
From: Rohit Patnaik <quanticle () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:50:39 -0600
A few phrases and "surprising" patterns are a lot more suspicious than a hard drive full of zeroes, especially if there's evidence that other data has been overwritten or erased. If you present a hard drive full of zeroes or random numbers, there's nothing to charge you with. If most of your data is random gibberish but there are a few telling phrases here and there, then there might be enough for the prosecution to bring charges, even if they aren't able to get a conviction. Remember, "innocent until proven guilty" is nice in theory, but not so nice in practice. While you're under investigation, the prosecution can do many things to disrupt your business and personal life. The best thing to do if there's any question is to simply clam up and sit still until you get to speak with a lawyer. Remember, prosecutors are judged on their conviction rate, not on their accuracy rate. They have no incentive to look for exonerating evidence - that's your responsibility. They'll only look for evidence that'll prove you guilty. As such, its best to leave nothing at all that would arouse suspicion, especially if you've done nothing wrong in the first place. --Rohit Patnaik On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Bipin Gautam <bipin.gautam () gmail com>wrote:
Ok, i extract wikipedia in my computer... then latter delete the html... @hdd level the place is marked freespace. then i copy a few videos, write a few emails and by then if most of the things gets deleted and by bad luck if any such content is left unoverwritten partially producing "questionable" and "surprising" patterns UNKNOWINGLY of just a few phrases, then basically someone is screwed just like that, even without GUILT ?! So, copying dictionary, webpages, encyclopaedia, research paper etc in your computer can really be harmful sometimes !!!? Anything on the internet if its a webpage can land on anyones computer while browsing, searching online, following links and with a lot of coincidences etc AND NOT NECESSARILY whatever text chunks found in your hdd is content OF YOUR OWN. YOU READ TO BLOGS OF PEOPLE, VISIT FORUMS, joke around in FD etc....... (get the idea) and it can be saved in disk cache and IF be leftover in disk as broken chunks of texts you are screwed ? How does law see all that............. So, if a "questionable" content is found it doesnt mean the laptop owner is responsible for it. We even keep on skipping text while reading in forums online and anyone can say anything online and it can land in your hdd as TROJAN HORSE of OPINIONS to screw you latter in life !!!? Think about it? Maybe then Alice/chatterbox run through the free/slack/etc... space of your harddisk idea is better? It would be intellectual uphill challenge for the EXAMINERS given that someone may have to shift 1 terabyte of data (how many bytes?:) mostly by HUMAN RESOURCE in hope for a ___ in the haystack.......... bty, how many BOOKS is that? :P -bipin [1] http://alice.pandorabots.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach?, (continued)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Bipin Gautam (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Michael Holstein (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Bipin Gautam (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Bipin Gautam (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Michael Holstein (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Bipin Gautam (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Michael Holstein (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Bipin Gautam (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Bipin Gautam (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Rohit Patnaik (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Bipin Gautam (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Rohit Patnaik (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Rohit Patnaik (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Bipin Gautam (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Rohit Patnaik (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Nick FitzGerald (Jan 25)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Charles Skoglund (Jan 26)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Kurt Buff (Jan 26)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Michael Holstein (Jan 26)
- Re: Disk wiping -- An alternate approach? Kurt Buff (Jan 26)