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Re: how i stopped worrying and loved the backdoor
From: Marsh Ray <marsh () extendedsubset com>
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 03:53:52 -0600
"I agree that there's a good paper in this, I would love to see the entropy added by the multi-consumer model quantified, or even an upper bound placed on it. In the past when I've given my talk on randomness in the OpenBSD network stack, I've discussed this and I always ask for someone to come forward with such a paper.
So there are these many hundreds of lines of entropy management code in OpenBSD implementing what is claimed to be a novel architecture for random number generation and yet this guy, who is going around giving talks on it, is expecting someone else to quantify it and "come forward with a paper"? This is the kind of stuff that just doesn't make a bit of sense.
Unfortunately I don't get the impression that the amateur cryptographers questioning the OpenBSD PRNG are qualified to produce such a paper (if they were, they wouldn't be mailing here, they'd be submitting it to real cryptographers for peer review)"
The burden of proof lies with the "amateur cryptographers" making the security claims about it, not those questioning them. - Marsh _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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