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Re: Expired certificate
From: Marsh Ray <marsh () extendedsubset com>
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:44:43 -0500
On 08/04/2010 09:44 AM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
--On Monday, August 02, 2010 12:36:37 -0400 Elazar Broad<elazar () hushmail com>Spot on. I know of one large accounting/ERP system(which shall remain nameless, though I am sure there are those out there who have come across it) that checked the SQL version, including the revision number at runtime, which made patching SQL impossible.In those cases where there are such systems, there should be mitigating controls around them that increase the difficulty of break-in. Otherwise the IT department is negligent.
It's not the IT department's fault if the vendor ships a product that refuses to run with a patched system. There have always been products out there that behave like this, it's a simple coding or policy mistake to make. The attraction is that they don't have to support any configuration that they haven't tested. Unfortunately, products that do so are straying away from the herd and choosing not to participate in its collective defense. They are still subject to all the same published attacks, but cannot benefit from the standard update and patch cycle. A secondary effect is that since it's so hard to predict the security of such a system over the long term, they simply can't be considered when developing general guidelines and best practices. For example, we might be discussing the schedule of disclosing a bug in the SQL vendor's product. If the SQL vendor can patch it easily for their primary customer base, those oddball downstream vendors are just not going to get much consideration. Eventually, they will probably tire of playing catch-up and adjust their policy. - Marsh _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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