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Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive
From: Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com>
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:29:32 -0400
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 1:05 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:39:04 PDT, Dan Kaminsky said:There may very well be a legitimate boundary cross from this DLL stuff, but we haven't seen it yet. All the present stuff has the indelible mark of a false boundary, in that no fix can be imagined that actually closes the vector.Oh you're wrong there Dan. I can imagine fixes that would close the vector (starting with fixes that impose a legitimate enforcable boundary). Fixes that will be accepted by Joe Sixpack? I think we saw where UAC ended up. :)
Hehe. You start with the beginnings of imagining a fix. Here, you say 'the desktop will be aware of when it is launching content safe for viewing, vs. dangerous, and will behave differently'. Eventually you realize: 1) You have to build this database 2) You have to maintain this database, even in the face of third party apps adding handlers 3) You have to determine what the differential behavior is going to be on a safe vs. unsafe type And it's in the middle of 3) that you end up...well...where UAC ended up :) Again, let me emphasize. Really interesting vector, will probably end up attached to an unambiguous flaw. But right now, we're just seeing flaws along the lines of "Double clicking an icon in Explorer might execute arbitrary code". It doesn't matter that that's true even if there's a network share, or a USB stick. That's what Explorer *does*.
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Current thread:
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive, (continued)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Dan Kaminsky (Aug 30)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Atul Agarwal (Aug 26)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 26)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Larry Seltzer (Aug 26)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Dan Kaminsky (Aug 26)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive paul . szabo (Aug 26)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Dan Kaminsky (Aug 26)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive paul . szabo (Aug 26)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Dan Kaminsky (Aug 26)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 26)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 26)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Dan Kaminsky (Aug 26)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 26)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Dan Kaminsky (Aug 26)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Larry Seltzer (Aug 27)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 27)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Dan Kaminsky (Aug 27)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 27)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Christian Sciberras (Aug 27)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 27)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Michal (Aug 27)
- Re: DLL hijacking with Autorun on a USB drive Dan Kaminsky (Aug 27)