Re: Apple Safari ... DoS Vulnerability

[Jason Starks <jstarks440 () gmail com>]

Mr. Mustache, it is obvious that I have more talent than a box of
chocolates, and that you envy the sadistic nature of your fellow trolls on
this list. Point blank.

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:18 AM, <bobby.mugabe () hushmail com> wrote:

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> Dear Valdis,
>
> I have been able to reproduce a similar situation using Firefox
> under MacOSX, using different websites and a significantly larger
> number of tabs.  Do you think these issues might be related or are
> they operating system specific?  What model of CPU were you testing
> this issue under?
>
> Thanks,
> - -bm
>
> On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:41:53 -0500 Valdis' Mustache
> <security.mustache () gmail com> wrote:
> > I would like to point out that I have been able to create a "hung"
> > state in the Firefox browser by opening 30 simultaneous tabs
> > pointed
> > at http://www.welcometointernet.org/lawnmower/ and adding a 31st
> > tab
> > viewing http://www.hotrussianbrides.com.
> >
> > Also, I am not amused.
> >
> >
> > Your humble servant,
> > Ze Mustache von Kletnieks
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:29 PM,  <bobby.mugabe () hushmail com>
> > wrote:
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> > > Dear Nick,
> > >
> > > You and Thierry Loller are wrong.
> > >
> > > - -bm
> > >
> > > On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:28:17 -0500 Nick FitzGerald <nick@virus-
> > > l.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > Chris Evans to Thierry Zoller:
> > > >
> > > > > > Example
> > > > > > If a chrome tab can be crashed arbritarely (remotely) it is
> > a
> > > > DoS attack
> > > > > > but with ridiculy low impact to the end-user as it only
> > > > crashes the tab
> > > > > > it was subjected to, and not the whole browser or operation
> > > > system.
> > > > > > But the fact remains that this was the impact of a DoS
> > > > condition,
> > > > > > the tab crashes arbritarily.
> > > > >
> > > > > Eh? If you visit www.evil.com and your tab crashes, that's no
> > > > > different from www.evil.com closing its own tab with
> > Javascript.
> > > > But what if www.evil.com has run an injection attack of some
> > kind
> > > > (SQL,
> > > > XSS in blog comments, etc, etc) against www.stupid.com?
> > > >
> > > > Visitors to stupid.com then suffer a DoS...
> > > >
> > > > Yes, stupid.com should run their site better, fix their myriad
> > XSS
> > > > holes,
> > > > etc, etc.
> > > >
> > > > But this is the Internet, so this "software flaw" can be
> > leveraged
> > > > as
> > > > security vulnerability.
> > > >
> > > > I'm with Thierry on this...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Nick FitzGerald
> > > >
> > > >
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