Re: The war in Palestine

[Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider () gmail com>]

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:01 PM, j-f sentier <j.sentiar () gmail com> wrote:

> > > Hamas is also designated as a terrorist organization by the US state
> > > department.
> > >  What a nice reference ....
> > Do you dispute it?
> Yes i do, a problem with that ?
Yes, you have a problem.


> > > > > I said Hamas was, and that the Palestinians elected Hamas as
> > > governement.
> > > Hamas resist against your invasion.
> > How? By firing at _civilians_? Sending suicide bombers to attack
> > > _civilians_? And doing everything it possibly can to attack _civilians_?
> > Yes it's a war, Palestine has never been in peace with you guys, and i
> understand why.
> You guys are armed by US ... Palestinian do not have equivalent weapons....
> Btw did you forgot Sabra & shatilla ? just in case :
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre
> Your argument is pointless once again, but i guess amnesia 101 is your
> bedside book.
I have already commented on that - why do you keep repeating yourself like a
broken record?
Go talk to your brothers in Lebanon who did the massacre.


> If Israel really wanted to kill Palestinians in general, it could do it
> > much cheaper and with no Israeli casualties.
> They did remember now ?
No, I was referring to Israel being able to wipe Gaza with 0 casualties on
the Israeli side, and in less than 10 minutes. Israel did not do that.


> > Israel pulled out of Gazaa and let the Palestinians have their own
> > govornment,
> Oh you guys are so nice.. shall they say thanks ?
Yes.


> > they basically gave them everything they wanted on a silver plate, in
> > return Hamas and other Palestinian terrorist groups, sent terrorist suicide
> > bombers accross the border - to kill as many Israeli _civilians_ as
> > possible.
> Yep that's war remember ?
So trying to kill as many Israeli _civilians_ is OK in your book,
but Israel attempting to kill those terrorists _without_  harming
_civilians_ on the Palestinian side (a mission impossible task) is wrong?



> > Israel is _avoiding civilian casualties_, it is _sorry_ for any
> > _civilians_ wounded or killed during fighting - but this is a _war_, and
> > _civilians die_ - especially since Hamas is using Palestinian civilians as
> > human shields - http://tinyurl.com/6v45l5
> Bull-shit
You had that for lunch?


> > the same as they were happy at 9/11 - when 3000 innocent civilians dies in
> > the WTC - spreading candy in the streets.
>
> Lots of people hate USA, but i guess they're terrorists then .
> So  many european country = terrorists.
> See i'm kind i save you some words :)
No, you can hate as many people as you want - as long as you don't put your
hate into action - i.e. blow yourself up in a bus, etc... You are not a
terrorist (just a sick person).


> > No other country does what Israel does - i.e. make over 250 thousand
> > phonecalls to warn enemy's civilians to leave an area about to be bombed -
> > during war.
> Do you guys want a nobel price or something ?
Both.


> > Now quoting party is over, let's also talk about fact:
> Israel are illegal since 1948.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre


> They have stolen lots of land in jordany, egypt,
I guess they should have not opened war on Israel...


> palestine
There was no such country - there were no Palestinians back then. It's a new
invention.


> , liban
You mean Lebanon?


> while playing at war with them neighbors.
Yes, 'playing' in a war that the Arabs started. And winning that war.

> Btw no one of theses neighbors wanted  the creation of the state of israel
But the UN disagreed.


> , which is totally understandable
It was not up to them.


> ,  but US and British got the last word.
No, Israel did.


> Israel also made a nuclear bomb illegaly
Prove that.


> , they shouldn't have that one.
Why? Are you scared?


> Also about the elected people by god stuff, i forgot to said that  the man
> who wrote the torah was jew ;)
Yes, Mosses was a Jew.


> The bigger problems with zionist, is they control most of the medias around
> the world,
 most of the banks, them community are pretty strong around.
> Making/doing propaganda is an easy game for them, you cant touch jews,
> because as avraham do, everytime you hit them,
Sure... It's all just 1 huge big conspiracy against you.


> they play the holocaust card.
 I didn't bring up the holocaust - you did by comparing Israel to the Nazis.


> If someone in europe throw some coktails molotov on a  mosque, nothing
> happens
When did that happen?


> , but if you do the same on a synagogue,  all the politics will be
> condaming the authors of this attak, kind of frustrating eh ?
No. You are.


> You have to understand something Avraham
I don't.


> , a lots of people (not muslims) hate zionist, there's a reason for this
Yes - evil exists.


> , you've asked for it.
No - it's just a fact of life.


> As you got to understand that a lots of people do not like the US, for what
> they've done in central ameriqua for exemple
Use a spell checker or something...


> , or for playing the world policeman game, and yes if 15 clown armed like
> gardeners can blow 2 towers in US soil, this will make happy some people
> around the world, religious related or not.
If you are happy to see 3000 innocent civilians murdered by 15 clowns armed
like gardeners - you should visit a doctor ASAP.


> Also stop calling everyone terrorists
Not everyone - but Hamas are.


> , dont you remember, talibans was good terrorists when they was fighting
> agains communists, now that they "fight" against US, they are bad
> terrorists.
You agree that they are terrorists then?


> stifles yourself with your propaganda.
Your English sucks for someone trying to do propaganda on a ComSec mailing
list.


>
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