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Re: [SCADASEC] 11. Re: SCADA Security - Software fee's
From: Michael Krymson <krymson () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:57:06 -0600
1- We could do this ad infinitum, but "this list's lack of usual moderation does not mean your opinion is either respected, welcomed, or desired by anyone," Mr. Mugabe. But hey, at least Valdis was on topic, right? Circular arguments get us everywhere! 2- Further, I for one welcome Valdis' opinions. He is well-spoken/written, makes excellent points, and regularly demonstrates a high degree of intelligence and understanding. Quite frankly, that earns much more respect than whiney immature posts like the below. So, that makes one person on this list who welcomes it, and not the "no one" you were implying when you seemed to speak for an entire list... On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:28 AM, <bobby.mugabe () hushmail com> wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mr. Kletnieks, This list's lack of usual moderation does not mean your opinion is either respected, welcomed, or desired by anyone. Like my father always says, "Give a nigger a podium and he'll rap for anyone. Give a white man a podium and he'll beat his chest like a primate and spew mindless propaganda to anyone that will listen with the hope that the senseless banter will impress those less intelligent than he." And you, my friend, are not black. - -bm On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:30:01 -0500 Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:24:29 EST, Smoking Gun said:Ironically, your own quote"company"quote offered penetrationtestingservices at the insane pricing scheme of "we'll pentest0r joofor freeand if we find something you can pay us to find other holes!".And how, exactly, is that an "insane" pricing scheme? If you think about it for a bit, it actually makes quite a bit of sense - Snosoft needs to prove they're in fact good enough to be able to find the holes you're paying them to find, or it doesn't cost anything. That *sure* as hell beats paying $100K for a pen test, and then finding out that you hired a bunch of asswipes who can't find holes.
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- Re: [SCADASEC] 11. Re: SCADA Security - Software fee's Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 21)
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- Re: [SCADASEC] 11. Re: SCADA Security - Software fee's Adriel T. Desautels (Feb 20)
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