Re: IE 0day for sale

[Jeff Williams <jeffwillis30 () gmail com>]

And the question is now:
should the Mossad, NSA, etc be considered as bad guys ?




2009/12/12 Jeff Williams <jeffwillis30 () gmail com>

> If idefense pay 7000$ for a RCE on IE, it's possibly because they sell
> theses bugs to the NSA, MOSSAD, MI10 ?
>
> From my understanding, MS do not pay for any reported vulnerability, or
> maybe i missed the "make a donation" icon on idefense website ?
>
>
>
> 2009/12/12 Shyaam <shyaam () gmail com>
>
> :) Good one Valdis. That is what I was exactly trying to do.
> > #1. If his intent was good, he would have sent it to the vendor and to the
> > US Cert.
> > #2. His aim is to get money:
> >       a. Instead of selling it directly to black market and not getting
> > any returns, or having some legal agency stepping onto his doors he could as
> > well sell it to these companies.
> >       b. These companies DO NOT sell stuff to BLACK MARKET. Straighten
> > your facts before you accuse any of the below:
> > zdi,idefense,securiteam,immunity,etc. They have better things to do than to
> > sell it off to the bad guys.
> >
> > Besides, many people have that kind of a notion only because there are
> > many hollywood movie fanatics out there, who suspect every single entity
> > around you.
> >
> > Thanks for your creative response though :). You really cracked me up :)
> >
> > Shyaam
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:31 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:13:52 EST, Jeff Williams said:
> > >
> > > > zdi,idefense,securiteam,immunity,etc is a front, your exploit will
> > > anyways
> > > > end up on the blackmarket by selling it to theses company.
> > > > How can you be that naive ?
> > >
> > > You're talking to somebody willing to sell to the highest bidder on F-D.
> > > Draw your own conclusions about whether they actually care if it ends up
> > > on
> > > the black market.
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