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Re: [inbox] Re: Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US
From: "Exibar" <exibar () thelair com>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:21:20 -0400
excuse me? You're attempt at insults are pointed wrongly. I've read the legal brief on his case, the UK documents on his case too, he's ADMITTED guilt. In my book that's enough to call him a criminal, he should be arrested and tried in a court of law to determine if that is a fact or not. It's up to his accusers to prove his guilt. He is not actually guilty until he is found to be guilty in the court of law. If they cannot prove he is guilty, he must walk a free man. Not to difficult to prove guilt when the accuser admits to what he's done.... He is completely innocent until found guilty... at least in the US, UK, and even Australia that is the way things are. Lets see what the Chinese would do to him if he did the same thing over then than over here. oh, to answer your question, YES, I'm an American, and proud of it.... Exibar _____ From: Noel Butler [mailto:noel.butler () ausics net] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:28 PM To: Exibar Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk; info () freegary org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [inbox] Re: Supporters urge halt to,hacker's, extradition to US On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 00:03, Exibar wrote: Look, Mckinnon broke into the computer systems. Under his own admission he ran scripts to help him do this. Some of those scripts crashed systems. He possibly deleted files and what-not in his travels, either willfully or not, doesn't really matter. He loaded software on those systems so he could get in AGAIN easier... AND he leaves a note threatening that he will do it again. All this on KNOWN government computer systems. He intentionally wanted to get into these systems to look for UFO crap. This goes way beyond just simply leaving a note stating that your door is unlocked. This is going into the unlocked car, putting in a remote control door opener, and threatening to re-enter the car again. He knew what he was doing, he knew who's machines he was doing it to, he was obviously going to keep doing it until caught by the sound of his message. He's a criminal, period. He should be properly tried in a court of law. The way the UK an dthe US law is written, that means extradited to the US for a trial. All the protesting or debating won't change the fact that he's a criminal. Plain and simple, deal with it.... His sentence will be based upon what comes up in court, and it hardly ever is the maximum. I'm sorry, are you American? Are you a typical American? If so, you have just demonstrated why he should not be extradited, as you, as a typical American have him decided GUILTY already without seeing and hearing all the ACTUAL evidence. not just the rhetoric the politicians want the media to tell you about, so he has no chance of fair trial. <http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html>
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