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Re: Firewire Attack on Windows Vista


From: "TheM ." <them.root () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:06:28 -0500

I believe their work is an expansion of this:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/security/hack-into-a-windows-pc-no-password-needed/2008/03/04/1204402423638.html,
which demonstrated the vuln. in XP (and, according to the paper, it's been
demonstrated with other OS's as well), and their work was specifically done
on showing the problem in Vista, which hadn't (as far as the paper writer
seems to know) been done before.

Maus

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Roger A. Grimes <roger () banneretcs com>
wrote:

As somewhat indicated in the paper itself, these types of physical DMA
attacks are possible against any PC-based OS, not just Windows. If that's
true, why is the paper titled around Windows Vista?

I guess it makes headlines faster.  But isn't as important, if not more
important, to say all PC-based systems have the same underlying problem?
 That it's a broader problem needing a broader solution, instead of picking
on one OS vendor to get headlines?

[Disclaimer: I'm a full-time Microsoft employee.]

Roger

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bernhard Mueller [mailto:research () sec-consult com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:54 AM
To: Full Disclosure; Bugtraq
Subject: Firewire Attack on Windows Vista

Hello,

In the light of recent discussions about firewire / DMA hacks, we would
like to throw in some of the results of our past research on this topic
(done mainly by Peter Panholzer) in the form of a short whitepaper. In this
paper, we demonstrate that the firewire unlock attack (as implemented in
Adam Boileau´s winlockpwn) can be used against Windows Vista.

The paper is available at:


http://www.sec-consult.com/fileadmin/Whitepapers/Vista_Physical_Attacks.pdf


Best regards,

Bernhard


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