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Re: FW: 21 Million German bank accounts stolen - but accounts are still more secure than many other ones
From: Simon Richter <Simon.Richter () hogyros de>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:35:56 +0100
Hi, On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 03:45:26PM +0200, Viktor Larionov wrote:
By baking trojans, I meant trojans injecting additional payment information into your bank transfers - e.g. you make 5 payments, but the trojan makes also the sixth one, still browser with the help of a trojan displays you only 5 of them.
That wouldn't work, since the additional transaction would require a one-time password as well. Replacing a transaction works if you have control over the browser, but many banks have reacted already and offer to send the password via SMS along with a copy of the transaction data so you have a second channel. During the next year, I expect a trojan that infects phones and looks for messages with account data and passwords, then forwards them over the internet (hooray for always-on UMTS) so they can be matched to hijacked browsers. What I'd like to see in the next two years (but I'm not holding my breath) would be a (standardized?) "security module" in mobile phones that is independent from the rest of the system and can take over display and keypad, indicated via a dedicated LED; this way, the message containing the password could be encrypted without a trojan ever having a chance to access it.
Still there are very successfull strategies used by banks to fight this - mostly based on social analysis of your behavement, but that's another story.
Yes, I was without access to my bank account for a whole week because it doesn't fit my usual behaviour pattern to rent a room in a shady district of Madrid. :-/ Simon
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