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Re: 21 Million German bank accounts stolen
From: "James Matthews" <nytrokiss () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:58:13 +0200
Also money transfers are traceable.... I am guessing that they also have EC card data. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Jost Krieger <Jost.Krieger+f-d () rub de<Jost.Krieger%2Bf-d () rub de>
wrote:
On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 04:11:48PM +0200, James Matthews wrote:German banks are some of the oldest in the world. This is pretty scary however it is also the reality of germanys new laws... I hope they finditsoon and protect the people that need to be protected http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/12/09/0125201.shtmlWhat Slashdot doesn't say: What was disclosed were 1.2 million account numbers plus additional information, but not means of access. This is bad enough of course. The 21 million were claimed to be available by the perps, which is believable, as they tried to sell them to a newspaper. The trail seems to lead to small call centers, where someone collects these data and sells them on the side. The banks seem not to be involved at all. If you find this all weird, payments in Germany work totally different from the US. Noone uses checks for private payments, either you use money transfer or you have the money directly pulled from your account (and you can call it back for at least 6 weeks). So a lot of people know your account number. Jost -- | Helft Spam ausrotten! HTML in Mail ist unhöflich. | | Postmaster, JAPH, manchmal Wahrsager am RZ der RUB | | Wahre Worte sind nicht gefällig, gefällige Worte sind nicht wahr.| | Lao Tse, Tao Te King 81 | _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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