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Re: U.S. Is Losing Global Cyberwar, Commission Says


From: "Elazar Broad" <elazar () hushmail com>
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:20:36 -0500

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I think most of us realize that even with the hard work of many
good people in and out of the security industry this country's
cyber security amounts to some swiss cheese, and there is plenty of
blame to go around. Let's face it though, no one thinks that by
failing to properly secure their computer and/or information they
could possibly be aiding our terrorist friends. For one, there have
been been links between funding for various groups and carding.
Changing the public opinion and mindset might go a long way
especially if its something like "your credit card could be funding
the next 911", that's just a though though. As for those who have
been there, done that, all your work isn't for naught. I may not
like his tax plan, but Obama definitely is headed in the right
direction by appointing a CTO for this country as well as taking
cyber security seriously. Its about damned time!

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:13:44 -0500 James Matthews
<nytrokiss () gmail com> wrote:
They are trying to get the government to do something about it.
But unless
they see the danger not just hear about it nothing will happen.

Consider remarks before Congress last year by O. Sami Saydjari,
CEO of Cyber
Defense Agency <http://www.cyberdefenseagency.com/>, a security
research and
consulting firm, and a former official at the Defense Dept.'s
research arm,
DARPA. Following a major cyber-attack, he told legislators,
electricity,
banking, and communications could all go dead, leaving Americans
scrounging
for food, water, gasoline—even hunks of firewood traded on the
black market.


On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Elazar Broad <elazar () hushmail com>
wrote:

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They ain't called beltway bandits for nothing...

On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:28:52 -0500 "Rafal @ IsHackingYou.com"
<rafal () ishackingyou com> wrote:
Ivan, all,

   Hold the phone...$5k-$7k to fix an infected device!?
Really?
HOLY
CRAP... either that's a completely made-up "FUD" figure, or the
government
contractors are making *way* too much money off my taxes.

__
Rafal M. Los
IT Security - Response | Mitigation | Strategy

E-mail:  rafal () ishackingyou com
- Blog:         http://preachsecurity.blogspot.com

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http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/dec2008/db2008
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