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Re: U.S. Is Losing Global Cyberwar, Commission Says
From: "Elazar Broad" <elazar () hushmail com>
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:20:36 -0500
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I think most of us realize that even with the hard work of many good people in and out of the security industry this country's cyber security amounts to some swiss cheese, and there is plenty of blame to go around. Let's face it though, no one thinks that by failing to properly secure their computer and/or information they could possibly be aiding our terrorist friends. For one, there have been been links between funding for various groups and carding. Changing the public opinion and mindset might go a long way especially if its something like "your credit card could be funding the next 911", that's just a though though. As for those who have been there, done that, all your work isn't for naught. I may not like his tax plan, but Obama definitely is headed in the right direction by appointing a CTO for this country as well as taking cyber security seriously. Its about damned time! On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:13:44 -0500 James Matthews <nytrokiss () gmail com> wrote:
They are trying to get the government to do something about it. But unless they see the danger not just hear about it nothing will happen. Consider remarks before Congress last year by O. Sami Saydjari, CEO of Cyber Defense Agency <http://www.cyberdefenseagency.com/>, a security research and consulting firm, and a former official at the Defense Dept.'s research arm, DARPA. Following a major cyber-attack, he told legislators, electricity, banking, and communications could all go dead, leaving Americans scrounging for food, water, gasoline—even hunks of firewood traded on the black market. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Elazar Broad <elazar () hushmail com> wrote:-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 They ain't called beltway bandits for nothing... On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:28:52 -0500 "Rafal @ IsHackingYou.com" <rafal () ishackingyou com> wrote:Ivan, all, Hold the phone...$5k-$7k to fix an infected device!?Really?HOLY CRAP... either that's a completely made-up "FUD" figure, or the government contractors are making *way* too much money off my taxes. __ Rafal M. Los IT Security - Response | Mitigation | Strategy E-mail: rafal () ishackingyou com - Blog: http://preachsecurity.blogspot.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ivan ." <ivanhec () gmail com> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 5:14 PM To: "Full-Disclosure mailing list" <full- disclosure () lists grok org uk> Subject: [Full-disclosure] U.S. Is Losing Global Cyberwar, Commission Sayshttp://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/dec2008/db2008127_817606.htm_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.htmlHosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Charset: UTF8 Version: Hush 3.0 Note: This signature can be verified athttps://www.hushtools.com/verifywpwEAQECAAYFAkk99owACgkQi04xwClgpZjY7AP/U3/nVeboctT47VJv9/ZmVY3EG6u E0oJhSZBqOtwJwu8RpXLGHpMj7iVkWEOAdI+iaEdZsWC+yGnvAkUUI4xnHkA3gKfzSB9 jgvG8XT/bcrbsON3dF9NOrb2hzdq8DqPbgDAIEg5wR3k3gXjrMap3BoIchz5g06HA18i hINTTfno= =3ZDD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Save hundreds on an Unsecured Loan - Click here.http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/PnY6qxtViPpZpPq5YJjtAbu0xAEgHnQ9Is2j ctQdjJChMVzyH6VQE/_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/-- http://www.goldwatches.com/ http://www.jewelerslounge.com/
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- Re: U.S. Is Losing Global Cyberwar, Commission Says Elazar Broad (Dec 08)
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