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Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid
From: scott <redhowlingwolves () nc rr com>
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:41:27 -0400
Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:40:32 BST, n3td3v said:Are you suggesting HD Moore had prior knowledge that the Austin Texas AT&T servers were vulnerable?No - simply saying that either they were vulnerable, or they weren't. If they weren't vulnerable, HD didn't have to do anything. And even if they *were*, somebody would still have to actually *attack* them. And even if they *got* attacked, it's quite possible that the upsides
of not
bothering to do something outweighed the risks. If you estimate that the cost (including "things you could have spent your time doing") is more
than
the losses, why bother? "Even if we *got* whacked, we'd lose maybe
$500. But
in the time I'd waste dealing with the issue, I could generate
something that
will get us $2,000 in revenue. So if I fix it, I lose $1500, and if I
ignore
it, I come out $1,500 ahead if we get hit, and $2,000 if we don't". ------------------------- _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
You can't expect n3td3v to understand things like that. He's a hero to all who read his cut-n-paste blog, not a true InfoSec worker. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid, (continued)
- Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid n3td3v (Aug 05)
- Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 05)
- Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid n3td3v (Aug 05)
- Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 05)
- Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid n3td3v (Aug 05)
- Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 05)
- Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid TJ (Aug 06)
- Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid Paul Schmehl (Aug 06)
- Re: Media backlash ... insane? TJ (Aug 06)
- Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid Anders B Jansson (Aug 06)
- Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid n3td3v (Aug 05)
- Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid scott (Aug 05)
- Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid Ureleet (Aug 05)
- Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid jf (Aug 06)
- Re: Media backlash begins against HD Moore and I)ruid n3td3v (Aug 06)