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Re: spammer wades into US Presidential race
From: "Aaron Katz" <atkatz () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:14:21 -0400
Did you try contacting his campaign, and asking them if it was theres? While they may not fess up, it wouldn't hurt. Also, if you really believed that it might come from his campaign, wouldn't it be worth trying to find out if spam had been sent on his behalf for previous campaigns that he had run? And was there any investigation into how Paul may have voted about spam legislation? Simply postulating that it's his (considering spamming is not a nice thing) without even checking his record on such a topic, and claiming "newsworthy" isn't quite... nice. On 10/30/07, lsi <stuart () cyberdelix net> wrote:
I didn't do much in the way of research, cos this is surely spam, and we know spammers forge as much as possible. So, I presume Derk Gaston doesn't exist (I note his email address is janek () stswithxxx com, unlikely). I note the mail is coming from .cn, a quick ping and traceroute confirm this, again, it's unlikely Mr Paul is posting his newsletter via China. I also note the forged Received: line containing the hostname dns02e.hants.gov.uk (this must be forged since it claims that host has the IP 59.52.247.195, yet my own mailserver has resolved 59.52.247.195 to 195.247.52.59.broad.nc.jx.dynamic.163data.com.cn, and besides, there's no reason for Hampshire Council to be forwarding my mail, especially when it's concerning an American politican and it's sent from China by a guy named Derk with an email address that starts with Jane ... Finally I note the randomness inserted and the end of the subject line and body. That looks like professionally-produced spam, if its possible for spam to be professional, which is why I forwarded it, because I don't recall seeing spammers take much of an interest in politics before. Unless of course Ron Paul commissioned the spam, which is unlikely but certainly newsworthy if so. All of these unlikelies got me curious... Stu On 28 Oct 2007 at 12:04, Aaron Katz wrote: Date sent: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:04:13 -0400 From: "Aaron Katz" <atkatz () gmail com> To: stuart () cyberdelix net Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race Copies to: full-disclosure () lists grok org ukCould you provide a little more information/investigation (I'm too lazy, at this very moment, to do the background investigation that you should have provided, like who derk gaston is)? According to the headers, this looks like it might be forged (not just the little "may be forged" notice, but the source locations, and even the name of the person sending the mail - what association do they have to Ron Paul?) On 10/28/07, lsi <stuart () cyberdelix net> wrote:[Well, it could be worse. Spam that wants to end the Iraq war, great! - Stu] Return-Path: <janek () stswithxxx com> Received: from 195.247.52.59.broad.nc.jx.dynamic.163data.com.cn (195.247.52.59.broad.nc.jx.dynamic.163data.com.cn [59.52.247.195] (may be forged)) by x.y.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l9S5irW8004442 for <x () y net>; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:44:54 GMT Received: from [59.52.247.195] by dns02e.hants.gov.uk; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:44:51 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c81925$02a66001$93e966b1@qgddwrot> From: "derk gaston" <janek () stswithxxx com> To: <x () y net> Subject: Government Wasteful Spending Eliminated By Ron Paul yGVed Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 03:57:28 +0000 [...] Hello Scott, Ron Paul is for the people, unless you want your children to have human implant RFID chips, a National ID card and create a North American Union and see an economic collapse far worse than the great depression. Vote for Ron Paul he speaks the truth and the media and government is afraid of him. This is the last honest politican left to bring this country out of this rut from the War Profiteers and bush Administration has created. Get motivated America, don't believe the lies of the media he has also WON the GOP Debate On Sunday! Value Freedom and Liberty instead of corporate lies and corruption. Bypass this media blackout they are doing to Ron Paul, tell your family and friends and get involved in a local group at meetup.com make your voice heard! He will end the War In Iraq immediately, He will eliminate the IRS and wasteful government spending, and eliminate the Federal Reserve and restore power to the people and the only person not a member on the CFR. Can any other runner make these claims or give Americans the true freedom we were all raised to believe? We are all economic slaves to the banks and the illegal federal Reserve. This is why our currency is worth nothing because of Hidden Inflation Tax and the IRS taking everything you make! ** RON PAUL WILL STOP THE IRAQ WAR IMMEDIATELY! ** He has NEVER voted: * to raise taxes * for an unbalanced budget * to raise congressional pay * for a federal restriction on gun ownership * to increase the power of the executive branch He HAS voted: * against the Iraq war * against the inappropriately named USA PATRIOT act * against regulating the internet * against the Military Commissions Act He will eliminate the IRS, Wasteful Government Spending & Stop The Iraq War Immediately! Most importantly, he voted NO on anything in Congress that is not allowed by the Constitution. And he Despises any politican that does not do their job for the people and lives up to the constitution! Google.com & Youtube.com Search: "Ron Paul" Join The Revolution! *************************************** We Need A Real President That Will Restore And Protect Americans! Stop The War! Protect Our Borders! *********VOTE RON PAUL 2008************ rIQdkb -- End -- --- Stuart Udall stuart at () cyberdelix dot net - http://www.cyberdelix.net/ --- * Origin: lsi: revolution through evolution (192:168/0.2) _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/--- Stuart Udall stuart at () cyberdelix dot net - http://www.cyberdelix.net/ --- * Origin: lsi: revolution through evolution (192:168/0.2)
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