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Re: If internet goes down out of hours, we're screwed


From: "Steven Adair" <steven () securityzone org>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:41:09 -0400 (EDT)

I think you guys are both mixing up CERT (cert.org) and US-CERT
(us-cert.gov) -- both of which have very different functions.  As
mentioned though, you probably wouldn't want to call either if your
Internet goes down.

Steven

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:55:59 BST, worried security said:

If you internet goes down out of business hours
, don't expect anyone to answer you from CERT.

Actually, if "your internet" goes down, you should probably be calling
your ISP, not US-CERT.  The vast majority of "down" conditions are
networking
issues, not security issues.   And if you're being DDoS'ed, you're *still*
going to need to deal with your ISP because some NOC monkey is going to
need
to do the mitigation, and the CERT guys aren't going to be able to do
anything
for you with that anyhow.

Email:     <mailto:cert () cert org> (monitored during business hours)

Which is as it should be - if you look at the things that are actually
within
their purview, it's reasonable to expect it to *not* be a 24/7 mailbox.
There
are *other* venues that deal with the sort of things that happen at 2:30AM
and
can't wait until 8AM for resolution, and they *are* monitored 24/7.  The
mere
fact that you haven't been invited to participate in those venues doesn't
mean
they don't exist.

Besides which you overlooked the most obvious point of all:

If your internet is down, you can't e-mail to anybody anyhow.
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