Re: XBOX ID's being Jacked

["Jason Miller" <jammer128 () gmail com>]

i didn't say "your son got pwnd, kevin" and yeah they both prob pissed
each other off. go figure.

On 3/24/07, Kevin Finisterre (lists) <kf_lists () digitalmunition com> wrote:
> Its not my son... and as far as getting cocky, its a 2 way street for
> sure in this situation.
>
> -KF
> On Mar 24, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Jason Miller wrote:
>
> > microsoft is its own weakness, all in all your son got pwnd. tell him
> > not to get cocky and try to e-rage people on live anymore and it wont
> > happen, kbye.
> >
> > On 3/23/07, Kevin Finisterre (lists) <kf_lists () digitalmunition com>
> > wrote:
> > > There are lots of folks that mention obtaining the IP in order to
> > > hack your
> > > account. They usually say they have done this with Cain and Able
> > > or Commview
> > > or any other sniffer out there. You IP can be easily obtained by
> > > the usual
> > > standby groups or bridgers....  The only reason they want your IP
> > > is because
> > > that can buy them ONE piece of information. In some cases if you
> > > have paid
> > > for the proper program you can get an address and GPS coordinates
> > > for an IP.
> > > In most cases the address will be that of your neighborhood router or
> > > something like that.
> > >
> > > I just wanted to clear this up as there appears to be some
> > > confusion over
> > > what the IP address has to do with prextexing Microsoft XBL
> > > employees.
> > >
> > > You can try something like this...
> > >
> > > http://www.melissadata.com/lookups/iplocation.asp?
> > > ipaddress=209.11.233.26
> > >
> > > and get something back like this
> > >
> > > IP Address 209.11.233.26
> > >
> > > City FINDLAY
> > >
> > > State or Region OHIO
> > >
> > > Country UNITED STATES
> > >
> > > ISP CENTRACOMM COMMUNICATIONS.
> > >
> > > This may be JUST enough info to trick a dumb employee
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -KF
> > >
> > > On Mar 22, 2007, at 7:21 PM, richfa1 () aol com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Kevin,
> > >
> > > My son's Xbox Live ID was jacked by "Brad" of the o Infamous o
> > > Clan. It
> > > happened in such a short amount of time that I don't feel that it
> > > was a case
> > > of Social Engineering. I did some research and came up with a way
> > > to do it
> > > using your Xbox, with Action Replay and a memory card, and the DVD
> > > of the
> > > game Splinter Cell, your PC Kernal IP Logger and an FTP program.
> > > It seems
> > > that the DVD has a copy of Linux on it that you use to help get
> > > the person's
> > > gamertag by using that person's IP address.
> > >
> > > I found the steps to do it on a message board. However, by the
> > > time I got to
> > > it, the message board admin had edited it and then also closed the
> > > thread. I
> > > think that the social engingineering angle is only a small
> > > percentage of the
> > > ID thefts. I have a feeling that the technical way is more likely
> > > how the
> > > majority of IDs are stolen.
> > >
> > > Rich
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