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Re: Rutkowska faces '100% undetectable malware' challenge, teasing?
From: scott <redhowlingwolves () bellsouth net>
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 02:56:22 -0400
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It sounds to me like you fella's have never to, or even read her website.Ya know,Invisiblethings.org? Maybe you've never heard of Blue Pill.Or Red Pill. Or maybe it's a waste of time to tell you. There are some methods involving timing to detect ,possibly, these types of things,but they are easily defeated. Scott Peter Ferrie wrote:
The problem is that she wants the money upfront, in order to develop the 100% undetectable thing that she doesn't have right now. So that's a problem. ________________________________ From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk on behalf of Trey Keifer Sent: Sat 6/30/2007 1:39 PM To: Bipin Gautam Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure]Rutkowska faces '100% undetectable malware' challenge, teasing? Joanna has stated her technical requirements for the challenge and Thom and group has accepted them, so why not turn this into what it really is... a bet. The losing team agrees to pay the other $350,000 - if both groups are really so confident there shouldn't be any issue. On 6/30/07, Bipin Gautam <gautam.bipin () gmail com> wrote: hi guys, ref: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=334 so are they teasing by making her the impossible challenge at this date? :) honeypot developers have been trying to battle the same issue of making the virtual machine emulate guest OS like the it is run in real hardware since some years now. ref: http://handlers.sans.org/tliston/ThwartingVMDetection_Liston_Skoudis.pdf But if Rutkowska or anyone is able to succeed to make it undetectable in current hardware that would be genius! -bipin _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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Current thread:
- Rutkowska faces ‘100% undetectable malware’ challenge, teasing? Bipin Gautam (Jun 30)
- Re: [Full-disclosure] Rutkowska faces ‘100% undetectable malware’ challenge, teasing? Trey Keifer (Jun 30)
- Re: Rutkowska faces '100% undetectable malware' challenge, teasing? Peter Ferrie (Jun 30)
- Re: Rutkowska faces '100% undetectable malware' challenge, teasing? scott (Jun 30)
- Re: Rutkowska faces '100% undetectable malware' challenge, teasing? Peter Ferrie (Jun 30)
- Re: [Full-disclosure] Rutkowska faces ‘100% undetectable malware’ challenge, teasing? Trey Keifer (Jun 30)