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Re: n3td3v says second internet exists
From: Martin Zimmermann <mdz () prohest com>
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 04:36:46 +0200
HACK THE GOV ranted:
" secret information regarding second internet Reader post by: n3td3v Posted on: June 15, 2007, 6:14 AM PDT Story: Coming attractions for history's first cyber-war <http://news.com.com/2010-7349-6191184.html?tag=tb> the government are building a second internet incase this one goes down.
On who ?
not only is the second internet being built incase the first one gets attaced, infact the government plan to eventually switch everyone over to the second internet because its being built with security in mind.
Shhhhh, dont tell anybody.. But theres a super secret web 1.0 page for the choosen few. Since everybody knows you are a ûberhacker I guess we better let you in on it.. -> http://www.internet2.edu/ .And make sure you do not mention the secret European network either http://www.dante.net/geant/ . Just dont let anybody else know about these (especially the non-belivers on Full-Disclosure)
the problem with the first internet is, its not very secure and from the governments point of view not very well designed for counter-terrorism eaves dropping.
Except off course a "not very secure" network would actually be much easier to eaves-drop on, wouldent it ?. Or are you saying the new super secure Internet is cleattext protocol only ? Please advise..
new protocols and processes are being developed on the new internet which will be exclusively used by the u.s government until the roll out in 20 to 30 years time, although the u.s government will cut that public release timeline if a major breakdown of the internet occurs through cyberattacks.
20 - 30 years ?? Im getting my Internet 2.0 fiber access on monday, but I do know "somewbody".
in high level meetings with corporate america officials, technical details of how to let corporate security experts switch over to the highly classified second internet project in time of national emergency was disclosed. all parties involved in talks have signed documents to stop them talking about it in pub;lic, although details of the second internet have been obtained by international hackers, who have become firmilar with the project.
FYI, All the "international hackers" needed turned out to be a browser of their own choice + access to Google.
documents containing the plans for the second internet were downloaded off government computer networks by underground hackers,
Dude, Im confused now, are they "international hackers" or "underground hacker" ? Or are you saying theres perhaps a combination of both ??.
and therefore the information regarding the second internet project have been leaked. it is unclear how far on in development the project is, due to the papers obtained by illegal authorised entry into u.s government networks was not marked as the same time period as when the papers of the plans were obtained by the illegal means of international hackers.
Whoooa ! You totally lost me there !. But was it something about timelines ? Try here -> http://www.internet2.edu/about/timeline/ (also highly secret !)
in private the government are trying not to talk about cyber attacks too much so not to over talk the risk to national government and e-commerce interests, but in truth they are only too aware of the threat to their own communications and anti missle systems, therefore a second highly classified internet was advised by top level whitehosue advisors who have consulted with cyber security experts in classified meetings with government officals.
So only people at the White House, Internet Security experts, Goverment officials, most major US & EU universitys + the Full-Disclosure list know?. Can I also tell my friend Joe (he'll think Im sooo cool) ??
the saftey net known as the second internet may save america from certain national economic disaster and attacks to u.s army defense systems in a time of real world war when nuclear and cyber attacks are likely to happen.
Decrypt this with your decoder ring: *Fail You Life At !* Hugz MDZ
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