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Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco Clean Access
From: Damir Rajnovic <gaus () cisco com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 14:53:20 +0000
Hello Mark, Sorry for this belated response. On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 11:59:34AM -0700, Mark Senior wrote:
Well, that sure was informative. My questions to what the advisory means are below. Can anyone answer or correct this at all?
I am the person who wrote this advisory so maybe I can help here.
Unchangeable Shared Secret +------------------------- In order for Cisco Clean Access Manager (CAM) to authenticate to a Cisco Clean Access Server (CAS), both CAM and CAS must have the same shared secret. The shared secret is configured during the initial CAM and CAS setup. Due to this vulnerability the shared secret can not be properly set nor be changed, and it will be the same across all affected devices. In order to exploit this vulnerability the adversary must be able to establish a TCP connection to CAS.So, other than making a TCP connection to the box, what does the attacker need? Do they need to get the shared secret off some other box in the same administrative domain? How is that shared secret protected, is it stored anywhere else an attacker might have easier access to (e.g. on Clean Access-managed clients, on the 'readable snapshots' below)?
Being able to establish a TCP connection is the first requirement. After doing so the attacker will be able to talk to CAS and instruct it to do whatever (s)he wants it to do. Just finishing three way handshake is not sufficent to exploit this. I do not have answer if this is also stored in clients. Will verify and get back to you later.
Unchangeable Shared Secret+------------------------- Successful exploitation of the vulnerability may enable a malicious user to effectively take administrative control of a CAS. After that, every aspect of CAS can be changed including its configuration and setup.For "may", presumably we should read "would, unless the he suddenly fell asleep at the last minute"? Or are there some additional barriers to taking advantage of a successful exploit?
It is "may" because if you run software release 3.6.1 then your passwords are encrypted but you are still affected by both of these issues. On the other hand, if you are using version 3.5.8 then your passwords are not stored encrypted.
Readable Snapshots +----------------- The snapshot contains sensitive information that can aide in the attempts, or be used to compromise the CAM. Among other things, the snapshot can contain passwords in cleartext. Starting with the release 3.6.0, passwords are no longer stored in cleartext in the snapshot files.So, I read this to mean, the snapshot files are still downloadable without authentication, still have easily guessable names, and still contain
Not quite. You can not read snapshot files without authentication if you are running fixed software (3.5.10 and 3.6.2 and onwards).
sensitive information that can aid in an attack (what sensitive information?), but now the attacker has password hashes against which he has
Information like web server version can aide in an attempt to compromise a device.
to do a three hour offline brute force, or perhaps a twenty second rainbow table lookup, rather than getting the plaintext straight off.
You are assuming that we are using the same format as LM. If we would do so, then you would be correct that the hash can be cracked in few seconds by using rainbow tables. We do not use LM format. It is alwasy possible to crack the password using brute force but we hope that users are using passwords sufficently long to make this process too time consuming. Regards, Gaus ============== Damir Rajnovic <psirt () cisco com>, PSIRT Incident Manager, Cisco Systems <http://www.cisco.com/go/psirt> Telephone: +44 7715 546 033 200 Longwater Avenue, Green Park, Reading, Berkshire RG2 6GB, GB ============== There are no insolvable problems. The question is can you accept the solution?
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- Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco Clean Access Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team (Jan 03)
- Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco Clean Access Mark Senior (Jan 04)
- Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco Clean Access Damir Rajnovic (Jan 09)
- Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco Clean Access Mark Senior (Jan 09)
- Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco Clean Access Damir Rajnovic (Jan 12)
- Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco Clean Access Damir Rajnovic (Jan 09)
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