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Re: Flog 1.1.2 Remote Admin Password Disclosure


From: endrazine <endrazine () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 18:41:22 +0100

Hi Vladis, Hi dear list,

Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu a écrit :

It's a pretty easy proof actually.  If your password input routine allows
more different passwords than there are possible hashes, you *will* have
collisions.  For instance, if you use a 64-bit hash, and reasonable-length
passwords, you can create more than 2**64 of them, and 2 *have* to collide.

  
Agreed,  good sense helps in some cases ;)

If you're using anything resembling a sane hash (such as MD5 or similar),
what happens is that you basically ignore the hash collisions - because
rather than "1234", your colliding password/phrase is probably a 32-byte or so
string, which is likely not even enterable at the keyboard (it ends up being
A # ctl-b 9 e alt-control-meta-$ etcetc - of the 32, likely only 10 or so
of the characters are from the 96-char printable ASCII set, and there's a good
chance that at least several of the bytes are ones you can't enter from the
keyboard at all....)
  
Here again, I agree. Now, if one needs to exhaustively try every 
possible 32b hashes with the largest possible charset (or even bigger hashes
with a smaller - like those alphanumerical keys you just mentionned), to 
break a password hash, the it's not a "*BIG*" security issue like 
mentionned earlier imho.

Cheers,

endrazine-

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