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Re: Professional IT Security Service Providers - Exposed
From: <secreview () hushmail com>
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:02:26 -0500
Most intelligent people read the entire contents of what are said and ask questions before jumping to conclusions. Just to make sure that you've had the chance to read this, here it is again. "Generally our reviews are done by reading the contents of the companies website. We strip away all the marketing fluff and we look for untruths, poor grammar, quality of service, team talent and capabilities, site clarity, etc. If the website leaves us with questions, or sounds too good to be true we call the security company being reviewed and engage them in conversation about their capabilities and offerings." You'll notice that the above is an exact quote and not some altered version of what was said taken out of context by someone ("trains") trying to sound smart. Just to be clear, our mission is to expose IT Security Service Providers for what they really are, not to reinforce their marketing fluff and in some cases lies. On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:15:28 -0500 trains <trains () doctorunix com> wrote:
Quoting secreview () hushmail com: Greetings List: My team and I have started doing critical reviews of security companies that offer Professional IT Security Services. We find ... <snip> May I offer a correction. Try this message: "My Team and I have reviewed web sites of companies and (based on their web dev skillz and marketing lingo) have rated the companies' security capabilities." based on their web sites. that makes me sad. that's right in there with counting the number CISSPs at a company. the sales people I have to work with assure me that the product doesn't matter. they keep telling me, "all that matters is the sizzle on the website and the well engineered marketing message". Every day I tell them they are f'd up aholes. It looks like they are right. * sigh * tr ------------------------------------------------- Email solutions, MS Exchange alternatives and extrication, security services, systems integration. Contact: services () doctorunix com _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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