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Re: SCADA refresher
From: "I. D." <soufre () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 19:01:40 -0500
Datapac? In my experience, there aren't many things left there... of course, I don't work in that industry. I thought most transactions/work took places on other Canadian packet-switched networks. As for south of the border, I know even less. On Dec 3, 2007 2:51 PM, Dude VanWinkle <dudevanwinkle () gmail com> wrote:
Also Johnson Controls in 2005 they were busy converting the proprietary BACnet speaking SCADA devices to embedded windows XP, considering NASA and friends run JCI, and there is no good way to update embedded XP (AFAIK) remotely, these systems should be prime targets... Whats an MLP? -JP On Dec 2, 2007 7:52 PM, gmaggro <gmaggro () rogers com> wrote:Been giving myself a little refresher on SCADA, hope no-one minds theMLP.Stock presentation on SCADA security issues:http://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-federal-06/BH-Fed-06-Maynor-Graham-up.pdfGanesh Devarajan's Defcon presentation was interesting: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2434649448102709100&hl=en Makes of SCADA and related products I have seen in actual use: Allen Bradley (hardware) Siemens (hardware) RAND (hardware) ABB (hardware) Wonderware (software, assuming this was what Ganesh was assaulting) Well, assuming it was Wonderware (http://us.wonderware.com) since in multiple networks of hundreds of thousands of nodes, and the companies that own them... Wonderware was the only SCADA related package that creeped up. On a different and amusing note, X.25 was still in use in a number of these locations. Take that for what you will, but I don't think that's a good sign. Hello, Datapac! However I have little idea what the X.25 landscape is like anymore. Would be interesting if both credit/financial and infrastructure data regularly travelled over the same paths. Get access to a lottery/debit terminal, or just its connectivity, and leverage that. 24th Chaos Communication Congress "Hacking SCADA", it sure would be nice to make it over: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2007/Fahrplan/events/2227.en.html More amusement, though it's a subscription site: http://www.digitalbond.com/wiki/index.php/SCADA_IDS_Signatures Anyone have any resources they'd care to share? _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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Current thread:
- SCADA refresher gmaggro (Dec 02)
- Re: SCADA refresher Dude VanWinkle (Dec 03)
- Re: SCADA refresher I. D. (Dec 03)
- Re: SCADA refresher gmaggro (Dec 04)
- Re: SCADA refresher I. D. (Dec 03)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: SCADA refresher Elazar Broad (Dec 03)
- Re: SCADA refresher Joey Mengele (Dec 04)
- Re: SCADA refresher Dude VanWinkle (Dec 03)