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Re: Sasser or other nasty worm needed
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:39:00 -0500
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:16:31 EST, Rick said:
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:You would have us believe that the guy is clued enough to run a "closed lab" without screwing up (and there's *lots* of ways to screw up, starting with forgetting to wipe the drives afterwards, forgetting to disable a wireless card, forgetting to not plug any of the boxes into the normal net, forgetting to...).so when you go to mcdonalds and hand over your $5 for your MCbig meal, do you consider the repercussions of supporting an industry which pays low wages, is under-staffed, and promotes world-hunger by using enough grain to feed a continent, etc...?
WTF does that have to do with the topic? Unless you want to make the point that often, the McDonald's staff fails to use a level of food-preparation hygiene that matches the computer-security hygiene requirements to work with known malware? The average McDonald's doesn't have biohazard signs (whether they should is a different rant) - and even the average doctor's office that *does* have biohazard signs for used hypodermic needles and the like usually has special training/procedures for dealing with the stuff. And labs that do active research on biohazards have even stricter protocols. (Make note, there *have* been screw-ups in the protocols at places that handle stuff like Ebola and smallpox - Preston's "The Hot Zone" has a nice story of a dead monkey with nothing but a plastic garbage bag keeping the nasties in, and a few years ago, there was a small to-do in one of the labs in England that had some smallpox...)
And yet he's not clued enough to know how to find a copy of Sasser by himself.
so what? do *you* know where to find a copy?
Yes.
did you always?
Yes.
have you always been able to configure a network to talk via EIGRP?
No, because when I first got on the net, RFC1058 was still 4 years in the future. So it wasn't "always" possible, because the option didn't always exist.
There are a lot of people who are of the opinion that "if you have to ask where to find a copy of Sasser, you're not clued enough to be trusted with a copy".perhaps the next time you need a doctor, the one you find will laugh at you with the same sense of elitism you demonstrate.
Did I say I was one of the lot of people? Did you notice that I was replying *in the context of KF's comments* saying "It's cool because it's in a closed lab?"
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