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Re: FrSIRT Puts Exploits up for Sale
From: "Steven" <steven () lovebug org>
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:17:31 -0500
For sale? I wonder how many people are actually going to pay. All they did was subscribe to security mailing list and archive stuff that's already out there. Not to mention you can find all of these exploits elsewhere or you can just google for:
site:frsirt.com + inurl:exploitsThere are cached pages for all of their exploits. Sounds a little ridiculous to put stuff they took from elsewhere up for sale.
Oh well.. if it works then what can I say?----- Original Message ----- From: <rembrandt () jpberlin de>
To: <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] FrSIRT Puts Exploits up for Sale
Ivan . wrote:http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1938511,00.asp _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/Out of curriosity... what right does an author have to ask that they NOT sell his or her materials? Does french copyright law support any such author rights? I personally do not like the thought of Fr-Sirt profiting from my work... especially after the way they seem to have disrespected authors like myself in the past. -KFDuring European Laws (in mostly ALL countries the same): If you puplish something without a license it is OPEN DOMAIN That means people can use it, modify it, sell it... BUT There`s one BIG exception: The Author can prohebit it! And if the autor didn`t made a clear point (e.g. that his stuff can get sold) it must get mentioned like a "NO" (contract laws. Like: if you change parts of a contract and you don´t get an answer it must get noticed as "NO" (something even the german telekom had to learn...)). So as long as the original author didn`t angreed it`s totaly illegal to sell the stuff. Exeption: E.g. you burn a lot Puplic-Domain stuff on a CD and you sell the whole CD for e.g. 1-3 EUR (to cover the cost of a CD+energy you needed to burn it. This is NOT valid for downloads). Another law: If a german sues Frist he`ll sue them in germany. If this german is the original author the judgement will be clear.. and Frist will have another problem... So autors don´t have to care where the company is from. All the stuff -> Add some "As far as I know...." Laws change.. but something never changes.. Rembrandt _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- FrSIRT Puts Exploits up for Sale Ivan . (Mar 16)
- Re: FrSIRT Puts Exploits up for Sale KF (lists) (Mar 16)
- Re: FrSIRT Puts Exploits up for Sale rembrandt (Mar 16)
- Re: FrSIRT Puts Exploits up for Sale Steven (Mar 16)
- Re: FrSIRT Puts Exploits up for Sale Michal Zalewski (Mar 16)
- Re: FrSIRT Puts Exploits up for Sale poo (Mar 17)
- Re: FrSIRT Puts Exploits up for Sale Georgi Guninski (Mar 17)
- Re: FrSIRT Puts Exploits up for Sale Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 17)
- Re[2]: FrSIRT Puts Exploits up for Sale Thierry Zoller (Mar 17)
- Re: FrSIRT Puts Exploits up for Sale KF (lists) (Mar 17)
- Re: FrSIRT Puts Exploits up for Sale rembrandt (Mar 16)
- Re: FrSIRT Puts Exploits up for Sale KF (lists) (Mar 16)
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