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RE: 70 million computers are using Windows 98rightnow
From: "Castigliola, Angelo" <ACastigliola () unumprovident com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:36:45 -0400
This thread is the Windows 3.1/95 EOL discussion all over again. Nothing happened then and I seriously doubt anything will happen now. I agree with the points below. There are no known remote exploits for the Windows 98 operating system. I Could not tell you how many exploits are out there for Internet Explorer or Outlook\Express that will allow someone to compromise Windows 98 but I guess very few. The reason I decided to respond to this thread is to point out that I think running Internet Explorer or Outlook\Express as a non-administrator ( http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dncode/ html/secure11152004.asp ) is a better solution then the open source solutions that are notorious for features not working with Microsoft rich websites (if the website\application loads at all). Seems like the major computer nerds always recommend firefox for windows however if you use a lot of .NET web applications then firefox is a very poor solution. Angelo Castigliola III Enterprise Security Architecture UnumProvident The posts and threads in this email do not reflect the opinions of nor are endorsed by UnumProvident, Inc., nor any of its employees. -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of Morning Wood Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 1:31 PM To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98rightnow Windows 98 has no remote exploits, only client side attacks ( IE, OE, WMP and 3rd party apps ) ( try sticking a win98 box in a dmz or direct to the Internet... It wont get owned ). I dont think it is that huge of an issue that they are "abandoning" it's users. The impending abandonment of support for Win98 has been comming for at least 2 years http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3298741 As a matter of fact I have a Win98 box just for a game ( Descent2 on 3dfx !!! ) and my TV tuner. Replace IE and OE with open source replacements, and the platform could be a low cost alternative that would also carry a fair degree of security for those that would like to deploy it. One suggestion to Microsoft would be to make Win98 ( and Dos 6.2x ) available as a freeware OS since they will no longer be burdened by support, patches and etc anyway. Replace IE and OE with open source replacements, and the platform could be a low cost alternative that would also carry a fair degree of security for those that would like to deploy it. They could even open up some source code that is not used by the currently supported OS's, that could bring a good deal of support and development by the community. my2bits, MW _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- RE: 70 million computers are using Windows 98rightnow Castigliola, Angelo (Jul 11)
- Re: 70 million computers are using Windows 98rightnow clarkron (Jul 11)
- Re: 70 million computers are using Windows 98rightnow Flavio Visentin (Jul 12)
- Re: 70 million computers are using Windows 98rightnow Dude VanWinkle (Jul 12)
- Re: 70 million computers are using Windows 98rightnow Eliah Kagan (Jul 16)
- Re: 70 million computers are using Windows 98rightnow Dude VanWinkle (Jul 16)
- Re: 70 million computers are using Windows 98rightnow Chris Umphress (Jul 16)
- Re: 70 million computers are using Windows 98rightnow Dude VanWinkle (Jul 12)