RE: complaints about the government spying! (OFFTOPIC)

["TJ" <trejrco () gmail com>]

"And for most of that time, we seemed to manage with coping without
surrendering our civil liberties"

Yes, we have been overly complacent ... which is why more of us have been /
are being murdered.  It sounds like some have no problem with an endless
string of 9/11-like attacks, both within the US and abroad.  

I can only hope that isn't the case.



And, while I agree this is off-topic for this list - please note that both
sides of this argument are equally guilty of being off-topic.
/TJ
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Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] complaints about the governemnt spying! 

On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 14:37:44 CST, Paul Schmehl said:

> And the funniest thing of all is that they got stupid Americans all riled 
> about about civil and privacy rights in the process, completely losing 
> track of what's really important - preventing another attack on our soil.

You have this so completely ass-backwards that you obviously have no clue
what this country *used* to stand for.

> Or have you already forgetten that terrorists have been killing us (and 
> many others around the world) since the 1970's without pause? 

And for most of that time, we seemed to manage with coping without
surrendering
our civil liberties.

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