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Re: Question about Mac OS X 10.4 Security
From: "Mike Owen" <kyphros () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:40:22 -0800
On 2/28/06, Stef <stefmit () gmail com> wrote:
On 2/28/06, Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu> wrote:Still, the ignorance of Mac users, who believe their platform is somehow magically "secure" will contribute to the problem.
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I am sorry, Paul, but I have to take you up on this, especially with your tendency of generalizing everything. I have used *nix in the
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... so the Mac users are not [only] the bunch of idiots/ignorants whom you tend to describe - I would just invite you to attend a blackhat or shmoocon, or even SANS or Cisco networkers, and let me know how many Mac users you can count there ... and then ask yourself why ... but then, again, I may be wrong ;> Stef
Stef, You're describing your own experiences, and those of other security professionals. What Paul is describing is the normal user. I agree with him that the normal user thinks that because they have a Mac, they are suddenly immune to everything. As an example, a good friend of mine has been using an iBook and an iMac for several years, and likes to talk about how she doesn't have to deal with all the viruses and problems that her Windows using friends have. When I asked, she had never done a single update on her computers, because she didn't think she needed to. I've since convinced her to check for updates on a weekly basis, which while not perfect, has at least kept her patched. Mike _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Question about Mac OS X 10.4 Security Ferdinand Klinzer (Feb 28)
- Re: Question about Mac OS X 10.4 Security Stephen Johnson (Feb 28)
- Re: Question about Mac OS X 10.4 Security Paul Schmehl (Feb 28)
- Re: Question about Mac OS X 10.4 Security KF (lists) (Feb 28)
- Re: Question about Mac OS X 10.4 Security Stef (Feb 28)
- Re: Question about Mac OS X 10.4 Security Mike Owen (Feb 28)
- Re: Question about Mac OS X 10.4 Security Paul Schmehl (Feb 28)
- Re: Question about Mac OS X 10.4 Security Stephen Johnson (Feb 28)
- Re: Question about Mac OS X 10.4 Security Michael Holstein (Feb 28)
- Re: Question about Mac OS X 10.4 Security KF (lists) (Feb 28)
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- Re: Question about Mac OS X 10.4 Security Steven Rakick (Feb 28)
- Re: Question about Mac OS X 10.4 Security Stef (Feb 28)
- Re: Question about Mac OS X 10.4 Security Paul Schmehl (Feb 28)
- Re: Question about Mac OS X 10.4 Security Stef (Feb 28)