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RE: First WMF mass mailer ItW (phishing Trojan)
From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:27:55 -0600 (CST)
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Larry Seltzer wrote:
The emails themselves do not contain the payload, but rather a URL tosites that will infect users.How can this be called a worm? AFAIK, malware that needs human interventionto spread is a trojan, not a worm. So are e-mail worms like Sober and Bagle actually Trojans?
Yes. (never will you hear me saying 100%, but pretty much) When the AV industry understood that most of what they see are Trojan horses, they started taking them seriously. The tech guys are good guys, but the AV industry has been around long enough for us all to be set in our ways. So, a few years too late they started taking Trojan horses seriously, but as these Trojan horses are for mass stupid-public consumtion and not specially-crafted malware for a specific target, maybe that's not very cool. Some in the AV industry (on the other hand) still treat Trojans as garbage files, though. We learn as we go. Gadi. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- First WMF mass mailer ItW (phishing Trojan) Gadi Evron (Feb 16)
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