Re: defeating voice captchas

[Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>]

Stelian Ene wrote:
> Gadi Evron wrote:
>
>
> > Therefore, how many times does one have to refresh the page and listen
> > to the Captcha to be able to simply learn to identify the Captcha by
> > say, an MD5 hash of the audio for each letter?
>
>
> That is just a bad implementation, when done well audio Captchas are
> probably as secure as their visual counterparts.
> "Done well" means that, besides the 10 digits (and/or 26 letters)
> recorded by the sexy voice and replayed in a random order, the audio is
> mixed with multiple sound sources, different for each generated Captcha.
> For example, you can use a symphony(*), random white noise, the sound of
> the street, or all of these, at a level of 3 or 6 dB above the voice.
> The brain can easily distinguish the secret code from all the background
> noise, but it's much more difficult for a computer.
> While I'm not an audio expert either, I'm sure this problem is allot
> harder than a simple MD5 - just look how bad state of the art voice
> recognition software performs in almost ideal conditions, i.e. no
> background noise etc.
>
> (*) Of course, it's better to use sound sources that are hard to
> identify, and are ideally not available to the attacker; else he could
> obtain the same sounds and subtract them from the audio. I think some
> random pitch shifting (tremolo) would help against this.

OK. Use voice recognition.
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