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Re: Re: Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re:Re: ZoneAlarm phones home]
From: "Ivan ." <ivanhec () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 09:24:54 +1100
nice personal attacks, a great display of your intellect.
My first post in this thread claimed that Cringely was spreading FUD, and had provided no evidence to back up his claim.
No your first post was this
Without seeing the content of these packets, I don't see how Cringely can claim to know whether there's anything spyware or not about it. There is no *evidence* for his claim. I'm always suspicious of people who claim to have observed 'spyware phoning home' but who are then completely unable to give any details about the contents or destination of the packets, since it means that they are claiming something that they don't actually know at all.
His only claim was that zonealarm "phones home" even when all the communication options are disabled. I can't find any claim of spyware as you indicated. His claim of a phone home bug has been vindicated by Zonelabs/Checkpoint's response to the list and the admission of the bug. Like I said before, it's up to the people on the list to decide if this is a issue for them or not. Not for a arrogant fool like you to force his opinion onto people. go ride your high horse over to letters () infoworld com _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Current thread:
- Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home Dave Korn (Feb 03)
- Re: Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home Ivan . (Feb 05)
- According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-home server is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Dave Korn (Feb 06)
- Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-home server is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Frank Knobbe (Feb 06)
- Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Dave Korn (Feb 06)
- Re: Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Ivan . (Feb 06)
- RE: Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re:Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Greg (Feb 06)
- Re: Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re:Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Ivan . (Feb 06)
- Re: Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re:Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Ivan . (Feb 07)
- According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-home server is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Dave Korn (Feb 06)
- Re: Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re:Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Dave Korn (Feb 07)
- Re: Re: Re: According to Ivan, the secret ZA phone-homeserver is located at 127.0.0.1 [was Re: Re:Re: ZoneAlarm phones home] Ivan . (Feb 07)
- Cringely's FUD-spreading leads to broken workarounds being suggested Dave Korn (Feb 09)
- Re: Re: Re: ZoneAlarm phones home Ivan . (Feb 05)