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Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment
From: "teh kids" <tehkids () googlemail com>
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:18:41 +0100
> try googling BBC and Hezbollah - it took me all of 30 seconds to find > _and_ read that link (because I can read). > You mean like this? <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4314423.stm> "It now has an important presence in the Lebanese parliament and has built broad support by providing social services and health care. It also has an influential TV station, al-Manar."
Is this the only passage in that text that you think is biased? (i thought you were objecting on grounds of omission rather than inclusion) It can be broken down in to 4 statements, 1] Hezbollah has managed to become an important presence in the Lebanese Parliament 2] It has gained support for this power by providing [unnamed] social services 3] It has gained support for this power by providing health care [to an unnamed population] 4] It has a tv station, which is influential [it is not stated if this is a cause or an effect] Are any of these statements incorrect? Do these statements imply things that are incorrect? please, if these statements are incorrect, provide me some further information that could conclude that the misreporting is due to personal (on behalf of the reporter), government enforced or other bias, please also state _your_ reason as to why you think there is a bias. I think you need to read the whole article to put these points into context. I see no personal bias in these statements. (although I cannot vouch for their correctness) do you have a history with this issue? it seems that you _might_ be confusing bad journalism with bias because something is clouding your judgement.
Or this? <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4781551.stm>
that is a terribly written article.
"On the evening of 23 July, he and two other medics answered a call to rendezvous with an ambulance from Tibnin, in the hills to the east, to relay three civilian patients down to Tyre. Both ambulances were struck precisely by separate rockets as they were stopped at the roadside near Qana for the transfer." We now know this story is false - Hezbollah propaganda swallowed hook, line and sinker by the vaunted "unbiased" media.
I see your point but without sources to back up your claims they are little more than speculation. How do I know that you are not part of a more effective, Israeli propaganda machine. Please supply some substance to your outlandish statements.
That includes your beloved BBC, BTW.
the bbc is not beloved to me. I personally find the standard of reporting nowdays on the bbc not as good as it once was. they seem to be shifting to the lowest common denominator reporting. This is no good for anyone, it also means that they are more likely to get caught up in sensationalism - saying that this is because they are deliberately biased (your original point) is unfair and inaccurate.
Love your argumentation style, BTW. Most impressive.
i 1O\/3 n3tt3rs.
Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment Paul Schmehl (Aug 28)
- Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment Peter Besenbruch (Aug 28)
- Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 29)
- Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment Paul Schmehl (Aug 29)
- Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment teh kids (Aug 29)
- Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment Paul Schmehl (Aug 29)
- Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment Dude VanWinkle (Aug 29)
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- Re: [Full-disclosure][OT] Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment Bardus Populus (Aug 29)
- Re: [Full-disclosure][OT] Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment teh kids (Aug 30)
- Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment teh kids (Aug 29)
- Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment Paul Schmehl (Aug 29)
- Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment teh kids (Aug 29)
- Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment Paul Schmehl (Aug 29)
- [OT] Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 29)
- Re: [OT] Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment pauls (Aug 29)
- Re: [OT] Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment Martin Dipo Zimmermann (Aug 29)
- Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 29)
- Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment Paul Schmehl (Aug 29)
- Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment Dude VanWinkle (Aug 29)
- Re: Re: Re: George Bush appoints a 9 year old to be the chairperson of the Information Security Deportment pauls (Aug 29)