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Re: Microsoft Vista's IPv6: Dangerous Information Leak?
From: "Peter Dawson" <slash.pd () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:20:54 -0400
V6 tunnel over V4 should be ok. I really dont see only UDP *ONLY* packets at the stack level. TCP/IP is enabled too within vista. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/cableguy/cg1005.mspx#ESG /pd On 8/27/06, TJ <trejrco () gmail com> wrote:
Yes, Teredo is a concern - both for Vista (V6 enabled by default) and for those who have enabled V6 in WinXP (takes one command) ... or for those who have installed a 'nix Teredo client. All predicated on Teredo servers + eelays being available, of course. And, for the enterprise / managed env. - easily blockable if you try, even assuming you aren't following a default deny policy :). (BTW - blocking IP prot41 tunnels is also recommended, unless you mean to let them out!) /TJ (mobile) PS - there is atleast one other UDP-encapsulating 'transition mechanism' as well ... thinking specifically of TSP. -----Original Message----- From: "Hadmut Danisch" <hadmut () danisch de> To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Sent: 08/27/06 06:32 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Microsoft Vista's IPv6: Dangerous Information Leak? Hi, I haven't been using a Microsoft Windows Vista so far, just read some announcements and white papers. However, it appears to me at a first glance, as if it had a significat information leak. Microsoft introduced a new IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling mechanism called Teredo. (See e.g. RFC 4380). It is somehow similar to 6to4, but the differences are: - IPv6 packages are wrapped in UDP - Thus, they run more easily through Firewalls and NAT devices - You can do it with RFC1918 addresses - In contrast to 6to4 it is intended to be used host-to-host. While 6to4 is something you would run on your outermost router (the one with an official IPv4 address) and provide plain IPv6 to your internal network (then you know what your're doing, you actively have to configure it), Teredo is designed to run automatically on the local host. So every desktop machine becomes a tunneling client. As announced by Microsoft, Teredo is activated by default. Windows Vista will allways prefer IPv6 to IPv4 where possible. So most Vista users, especially common users with network experience, would not even realize that they are using IPv6. Most network and security devices, and network admins will not realize this either, since they see only plain IPv4 UDP packets. I haven't seen any firewall so far able to unpack Teredo packets. So the implications can be severe. As far as I can see at the moment: - You are using IPv6 without realizing or enabling it. - You are running it from your desktop machine. - You are thus opening a tunnel through your NAT/Firewall device passing _all_ kind of traffice unfiltered through, no logging. - Many connections (i.e. Teredo-Teredo and Teredo-IPv6) will be routed over a central Teredo server or relay, which is "helping" in the configuration of the Teredo client and routing Teredo packets to other Teredo clients or plain IPv6. So these servers (and thus network devices and IP providers close to the servers) can easily wiretap your traffic. - I guess that every Vista client will try to register at a Teredo server, so the server will/can generate an almost complete list of all clients. Can anyone experienced with Windows Vista comment on? Am I correct or did I overlook anything? (Did not have a running Vista yet...) regards Hadmut _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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