Re: PAYPAL security, hundred or thausend of buyers under cc fraud

["Bart Lansing" <bart.lansing () hushmail com>]

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I'd say Mary hit the nail pretty squarely on the head here.  5
minutes (ok, I lied, 2 minutes) of googling made it pretty clear
that being able to breathe and having a credit/debit car were as
valid a set of commanilities as any...and I'm not certain about the
breathing part, as I am sure that there at any given moment a large
number of credit cards still active for dead people.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:31:50 -0700 Mary Landesman
<mlande () bellsouth net> wrote:
> Ever consider the number of PayPal and Amazon users? Of course
> those names
> are going to crop up frequently. My guess is most of the people
> impacted
> also eat beef, drink beer, and like the Rolling Stones. That's all
> immaterial.
>
> The point is, it's very clear that not ALL were PayPal and Amazon
> users.
>
> In fact, not ALL even involved cards used or stored online.
>
> I'm fairly certain not ALL like the Stones, beer, or beef either.
>
> Conversely, CardSystems processed account data for MasterCard,
> Visa,
> American Express, Discover, and others. 40,000,000 (four zero
> million)
> accounts were exposed, 200,000 are known to have been skimmed for
> certain.
> Pretty significant numbers impacting a huge number of people
> regardless of
> where they shop or whether they like the Stones or have a PayPal
> account.
>
> Try googling that.
>
> -- Mary
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ad () class101 org>
> To: "'Mary Landesman'" <mlande () bellsouth net>;
> <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:02 AM
> Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] PAYPAL security,hundred or thausend

> of buyers
> under cc fraud
>
>
> Read all also, if your mind is linked to this post..., it happens
> too much
> to amazon nor paypal buyers... my card is French and not stored
> too any
> online store without amazon or paypal. Try to google "DIGITAL AGE
> 888", etc,
> this is enough yeah to shoot at both companies storing our cc...
> else let me
> know where we have all used our cc card ?
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Mary Landesman [mailto:mlande () bellsouth net]
> Envoyé : mardi 11 octobre 2005 16:00
> À : ad () class101 org; full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
> Objet : Re: [Full-disclosure] PAYPAL security,hundred or thausend
> of buyers
> under cc fraud
>
> I've spent less than 5 minutes looking through that thread and
> already have
> found a number of posts stating their card was not affiliated with

> PayPal.
> So I have to wonder how you jumped so quickly to that conclusion.
>
> Remember CardSystems - 200,000 credit card accounts were
> compromised and 40
> million accounts exposed just months ago. I think I would put my
> bet on
> something more obvious, like that.
>
> Research is about more than collecting links that backup your
> viewpoint.
>
> -- Mary
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ad () class101 org>
> To: <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:23 AM
> Subject: [Full-disclosure] PAYPAL security,hundred or thausend of
> buyers
> under cc fraud
>
>
> I will explain my small story to show you that using paypal to buy

> on the
> web is risked.
> I have buy only 2 things this month, 1 game at steampowered.com
> and 1GB DDR2
> at a respectable ebay store. That was the first time I were using
> paypal to
> pay things on the net and so on it will be the last time..
>
> Today I notice at my bank account a fraudulent debit of 24.99$
> coming from a
> "DIGITAL AGE 888", and looking on the web, happy to see that there

> is
> hundred maybe thausends of ppl in my case , fraudulent charge of
> 24.99$ from
> a "digital age".
>
> look there:
>
> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14525502?
> hilite=digital+age
>
> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14521837?
> hilite=digital+age
>
> http://www.robertkbrown.com/2005/10/04/digital_age_fraud.html
>
> after reading all this and comparing with my case, sure it comes
> from paypal
> and the stored cc card.
>
> So if you are under the fraud also like me, fill a complaint to
> your bank
> and there http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp
>
> This was a first and last use of paypal for me, unbelievable ...
>
>
>
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