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RE: Websites vulnerabilities disclosure
From: "Fielder, Kevin (GE Consumer Finance)" <Kevin.Fielder () ge com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 10:14:38 +0100
Hi all, Surely a better analogy would be you store many peoples property in your home that has an improperly fitted front door. You make money from the "secure" storing of this property, and the customers assume that their property is safe with you. If you leave the door in it's current state and refuse to fix it do your customers (and potential customers) deserve to know? I believe that businesses should be allowed a reasonable time to resolve issues, but if they refuse and continue to put clients data and businesses at risk then disclosure is not a bad thing. If you found the vulnerability sooner or later someone with nefarious intent will also. Just my opinion of course (first post on this list as well..!) Cheers K -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of Raghu Chinthoju Sent: 07 October 2005 10:09 To: offtopic Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Websites vulnerabilities disclosure I say, "... hey listen! your house entrance door latch isn't strong enough.. there are only 4 screws instead 16, which is the practice.. you have a risk of some one easily barging into your house ...". For some reason you don't respond.. I publish it in the local news paper that ".. Mr. X's door latch is week and any one can break it easily ..." Do you think it is ethical??? I seriously think not. More over, going by my personal experience, I think 5 out of 10 websites[1] would be vulnerable to some kind of security issue, like running vulnerable versions of the web server, improper input validation etc, which are just specific them and their clients. Would would be the interest of general public on such issues? I don't think any one from those sites would be part of bugtraq or FD as you mentioned that they are not vendors. Your publication will only increase the magnitude of their risk and doesn't do good to any one. If you have time, try to provide them with the required knowledge or fix. If you cant, just leave them at their fate and move on.. Raghu [1] I dont have any data to support this.. If you dont agree, please do so. You have every right to :) On 10/6/05, offtopic <offtopic () mail ru> wrote:
Hi List. I need your opinion. Recently I found multiply vulnerabilities in several sites. some sites
behold to security-related firms but not software vendors. I'm trying to contact that companies under rfpolicy several times but don't receive any response on receive something like "what injection your talking about?".
I want to know - is it "ethical" to use standard vulnerability
disclosure policies to public websites? Which fird-party can't be user as coordinator, like CERT/CC?
Or in other worlds - who should care about Web-sites security? Thank you. (c)oded by offtopic () mail ru _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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Current thread:
- Websites vulnerabilities disclosure offtopic (Oct 05)
- Re: Websites vulnerabilities disclosure Javi Polo (Oct 06)
- Re: Websites vulnerabilities disclosure Georgi Guninski (Oct 06)
- Re: Websites vulnerabilities disclosure Stan Bubrouski (Oct 07)
- Re: Websites vulnerabilities disclosure Raghu Chinthoju (Oct 07)
- Re: Websites vulnerabilities disclosure Peer Janssen (Oct 07)
- Re: Websites vulnerabilities disclosure Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 07)
- RE: Websites vulnerabilities disclosure Adriel Desautels (Oct 07)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Websites vulnerabilities disclosure offtopic (Oct 06)
- Re: Websites vulnerabilities disclosure Georgi Guninski (Oct 07)
- RE: Websites vulnerabilities disclosure Fielder, Kevin (GE Consumer Finance) (Oct 07)
- Re: Websites vulnerabilities disclosure TheGesus (Oct 07)