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Re: SmartCards programming...


From: Michael Holstein <michael.holstein () csuohio edu>
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:42:18 -0500

The tough part here is figuring out how to have the software open the file,
but ensure that the contents are in fact inaccessible without the smart card.
In particular, securely handling the data after opening to ensure that the
data can't be saved in an unencrypted form is fiendishly difficult, as every
single DRM scheme to date has demonstrated....

And even if you do get the programming bits right, there's still ways to get the hardware to cough it up -- a recent example being Bunnie's adventures with the Xbox.

3) Key management - more actual implementations manage to get this wrong than
do the actual crypto wrong.  You can do the crypto in a totally secure manner, but
it's still total security manure suitable for fertilizing the flower garden if
a keystroke logger can easily sniff the passphrase....

Short of placing the entry keyboard on the same physical device as the card (think smartcard meets pocket calculator), you'll always be able to grab the passphrase in this manner. I'm not quite sure there will ever be a solution to that one.

Even with biometrics, there's nothing stopping me from reading the data as it's taken from the input device (ie: the USB fingerprint reader) and re-presenting that same data artifically.

~Mike.
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