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Re[4]: Know Your Enemy: Tracking Botnets


From: Egoist <mastah () phreaker net>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:26:55 +0300

Hello Randall,

Monday, March 14, 2005, 2:49:41 PM, you wrote:

RM> Now that you two have reacquainted yourselves can we can back to the paper? 

RM> -----Original Message-----
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RM> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of pingywon
RM> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:02 PM
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RM> dailydave
RM> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Full-disclosure] Know Your Enemy: Tracking Botnets

RM> hello cock monger


RM> ~pingywon
RM> ----- Original Message -----
RM> From: "Egoist" <mastah () phreaker net>
RM> To: "pingywon" <pingywon () hotmail com>
RM> Cc: "Thorsten Holz" <thorsten.holz () mmweg rwth-aachen de>; "dailydave"
RM> <dailydave () lists immunitysec com>; <honeypots () securityfocus com>;
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RM> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:40 PM
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Hello pingywon,

Monday, March 14, 2005, 6:22:43 AM, you wrote:

p> haha .. I didnt think anyone was REALLY named Thorsten

p> ... I mean good paper....

p> ~pingywon


p> ----- Original Message ----- 
p> From: "Thorsten Holz" <thorsten.holz () mmweg rwth-aachen de>
p> To: "dailydave" <dailydave () lists immunitysec com>;
p> <honeypots () securityfocus com>; <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk>
p> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:08 PM
p> Subject: [Full-disclosure] Know Your Enemy: Tracking Botnets


Greetings,

The  Honeynet Project and Research Alliance is excited to announce the
release of a new paper "KYE: Tracking Botnets". This paper is based on
the extensive research by the German Honeynet Project.

    KYE: Tracking Botnets
    http://www.honeynet.org/papers/bots/

Abstract:
---------

Honeypots are a well known technique for discovering the tools,
RM> tactics,
and motives of attackers. In this paper we look at a special kind of
threat: the individuals and organizations who run botnets. A botnet is
RM> a
network of compromised machines that can be remotely controlled by an
attacker. Due to their immense size (tens of thousands of systems can
RM> be
linked together), they pose a severe threat to the community. With the
help of honeynets we can observe the people who run botnets - a task
that is difficult using other techniques. Due to the wealth of data
logged, it is possible to reconstruct the actions of attackers, the
tools they use, and study them in detail. In this paper we take a
RM> closer
look at botnets, common attack techniques, and the individuals
RM> involved.

We start with an introduction to botnets and how they work, with
examples of their uses. We then briefly analyze the three most common
bot variants used. Next we discuss a technique to observe botnets,
allowing us to monitor the botnet and observe all commands issued by
RM> the
attacker. We present common behavior we captured, as well as statistics
on the quantitative information learned through monitoring more than
RM> one
hundred botnets during the last few months. We conclude with an
RM> overview
of lessons learned and point out further research topics in the area of
botnet-tracking, including a tool called mwcollect2 that focuses on
collecting malware in an automated fashion.

Thank you for your time,
   Thorsten Holz, on behalf of the GHP
(http://www-i4.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/lufg/honeynet)


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lol i am too

shit my botnet just increases in size wow

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 Egoist                            mailto:mastah () phreaker net



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today i see strange packets coming to my bots, mostly trying to spoof
authorization requests, mostly UDP, but of course those bad guys even can't fix
request checksum

the war begins?

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 Egoist                            mailto:mastah () phreaker net


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