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From: "Jason Coombs" <jasonc () science org>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:29:56 +0000 GMT

Somebody please tell Research in Motion to add a postmaster account for the infamous T-Mobile wireless data service.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@unknown.domain>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:26:26 
To:jasoncoombs () tmo blackberry net
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details

The original message was received at Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:26:16 GMT
from engine89.bwc.prod.on.blackberry [172.16.148.120]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
ald2003 () users sourceforge net
    (reason: 550-Postmaster verification failed while checking <jasoncoombs () tmo blackberry net>)

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... while talking to mail.sourceforge.net.:
DATA
<<< 550-Postmaster verification failed while checking <jasoncoombs () tmo blackberry net>
<<< 550-Called:   206.51.26.131
<<< 550-Sent:     RCPT TO:<postmaster () tmo blackberry net>
<<< 550-Response: 550 5.1.1 <postmaster () tmo blackberry net>... User unknown
<<< 550-Several RFCs state that you are required to have a postmaster
<<< 550-mailbox for each mail domain. This host does not accept mail
<<< 550-from domains whose servers reject the postmaster address.
<<< 550 Sender verify failed
550 5.1.1 ald2003 () users sourceforge net... User unknown
<<< 503 valid RCPT command must precede DATA

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--- Begin Message --- From: "Jason Coombs" <jasonc () science org>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:24:49 +0000 GMT
Aditya Deshmukh wrote:
You've signed an NDA.

What do you do?

Revel all the info anonymously ?

Revealing all of the confidential information would be unethical.

Confidences must be protected, and secrets must be kept. And not out of fear of civil liability or personal bankruptcy, 
but because honor and integrity are essential ingredients in a healthy society.

The greater good is always served when individuals are free to decide for themselves, free from duress, what the right 
thing to do is in their unique situation.

Doing nothing would be immoral, and could place you in the position of being an accomplice to violations of SOX through 
your inactions.

SOX includes whistleblower protections, and a judge or jury ultimately has the power to affirm or reject the 
correctness of your actions or inactions in real-world situations.

Taking action may result in civil liability for your mistakes. Taking no action may result in criminal liability and 
the greater harm to all. Which is the more substantial risk? Which is more likely to be the correct decision? It is 
easy to see that all good men must assume civil liability in order to prevent criminal acts.

One of the key elements of the answer to the original poster's question is the necessity for the individual to decide 
which risk is the better risk for them to take according to their own beliefs and circumstances.

We have legislation like SOX for the express reason that our peers and our government wish each of us to take more 
seriously our role in complex white collar financial crimes.

SOX helps to tip the scales in favor of full disclosure. Its very existence should cause people who are wrestling with 
the conflict of having civil obligations and liabilities under contract, versus their equally-important ethical and 
moral obligations to help create the greater good for all, resolve this conflict in favor of taking action rather than 
taking no action.

Legislators and courts can, and will, provide greater clarification for us on these very questions in the future.

For now, the rule is to do what you believe is right, and get advice from legal counsel but don't forget that they are 
just making an educated guess about how a jury or a judge will respond, or interpret the law. Your attorney is not you, 
and it is not their decision to make in the end.

Sincerely,

Jason Coombs
jasonc () science org


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