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RE: [inbox] Re: This sums up Yahoo!s security policyto a -T-
From: "Exibar" <exibar () thelair com>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 22:01:52 -0500
Item 25 sums it all up. His parents have no legal recourse to get their son's account. I must have missed Mary's post earlier in the week somehow, vacations will do that to ya :-) Heck, they probably already have their son's account information anyway... I'm sure that someone, somewhere, hacked his account and gave them the information. Or maybe they just guessed the PW.... Ex
-----Original Message----- From: James Tucker [mailto:jftucker () gmail com] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:02 PM To: Mary Landesman Cc: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: [inbox] Re: [Full-disclosure] This sums up Yahoo!s security policyto a -T- I agree wholeheartedly. On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 10:05:55 -0500, Mary Landesman <mlande () bellsouth net> wrote:While I feel great compassion for the deceased Marine's father, I do not believe that grief should override security, privacy, terms ofservice, andgood judgement. Any email Justin Ellsworth wished his father tohave couldreasonably be expected to have been sent to his father prior to Justin's death - by Justin, of course. Any email destined for otherpersons is not -nor should it ever be - the property of anyone other than Justin and the person to whom the email was sent. If Justin wanted his father to inherit his email account, hewould/shouldhave provided his dad with the logon info. Excerpted from Yahoo's ToS agreement: -------------------- 21. NO THIRD PARTY BENEFICIARIES You agree that, except as otherwise expressly provided in thisTOS, thereshall be no third party beneficiaries to this Agreement. -------------------- And under item 25 (General Information): -------------------- No Right of Survivorship and Non-Transferability. You agreethat your Yahoo!account is non-transferable and any rights to your Yahoo! I.D.or contentswithin your account terminate upon your death. Upon receipt ofa copy of adeath certificate, your account may be terminated and allcontents thereinpermanently deleted. -------------------- As a Yahoo member, I would expect these terms to be enforced. It is tragic that a father lost his son. It is understandable that the father wishes to gain access to every word his son ever typed. But, no matter how cold it may seem, just because it is understandabledoesn't makeit right. Now, if there were reason to believe that a crime had been committed and that evidence lies in the email, that's a different story. Insuch a case, Ibelieve the email should be turned over to the authorities. Butabsent legalneed, turning over email to a grieving parent/spouse/child is adangerousand undesirable precedent. Yahoo should be applauded for protecting the privacy of its members. Frankly, I am shocked that many members of this particular listseem to feelotherwise. As it stands, Yahoo's security policy suits me to a -T-. -- Mary _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: This sums up Yahoo!s security policyto a -T- Mary Landesman (Jan 05)
- Re: This sums up Yahoo!s security policyto a -T- James Tucker (Jan 02)
- RE: [inbox] Re: This sums up Yahoo!s security policyto a -T- Exibar (Jan 01)
- Re: [inbox] Re: This sums up Yahoo!s security policyto a -T- n3td3v (Jan 01)
- RE: [inbox] Re: This sums up Yahoo!s security policyto a -T- Exibar (Jan 01)
- Re: This sums up Yahoo!s security policyto a -T- Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 06)
- Re: This sums up Yahoo!s security policyto a -T- James Tucker (Jan 02)