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Re: Illegal mind control rtrc.
From: Steve Kudlak <chromazine () sbcglobal net>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:42:15 -0800
I think the thing in question was it was capable of telling if a person "recognized something". Nothing about "lying" per se. Many of these things they haven't been statisticly tested. The thing that was discussed was supposedly a signal a person's brain puts out when they recognize an item. The forensic idea would be you would show somebody "the murder weapon" and if they produced the "recgonition signal" it wouldn't matter whether they said they did or not.,
As far as I can tell it has never been checked with any tests like the following. A person is given a .38 Police Special to fire and he does. He is then after a week or so shown another different . .38 Police Specisl. Does he generate a recognition signal? Does he generate a recognition signasl for that. thing? Does a gun naive subject generate it for "a gun? or any gun? If the person and is shown a .45 does it still generate a recognition signal etc?
Defense attorneys will have a Perry Mason field day with this sort of thing if there are any cracks in it. If anyone has the references to this story I'd love to see them. It ran on BBC World
Service awhile ago. Havae Fun, Sends Steve Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:22:28 CST, Ron DuFresne said:of course, on a semi serious note, elctromagnectic imaging scans have proven to be pretty effective in noting the difference in a lying brain and a truthful one. Now if they can just consolidate all that equipment into a small handable wand kinda device...What we *really* need is a portable cluon-flux detector, so that we can wave it past somebody and tell if they're a net emitter of cluons, or a cluon sink, or a null-cluon. Interestingly enough, it can be shown that cluon sinks are preferable to null-cluons - sinks will absorb cluons and accumulate them, eventually becoming cluon emitters once they reach a critical mass of cluons. Null cluons react with cluons in about the same way as neutrinos react with normal matter - they very rarely hit-and-stick. OB-Full-Disclosure: The effect on your organization's overall security stance when a null-cluon gets appointed into management.------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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